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Top TV Ship 2009

Go vote for your favorite One Tree Hill ship at PortraitMagazine.com.  Those listed are the following:

  • Lucas & Peyton
  • Lucas & Brooke
  • Nathan & Haley
  • Mouth & Millicent

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262 Responses to “Top TV Ship 2009”

  1. Brucas Says:


    yaaaaayyy!! BRUCAS is in the lead!!!

  2. CurlyForever2009 Says:


    I think Nathan and Haley deserve to be in the lead.

  3. Kinga Says:


    Peyton and Lucas TLA!!!!!!!!!!!!

  4. Brucaslover Says:


    where was tonights new promo? :(

  5. CurlyForever2009 Says:


    I know!!! I am so mad. I was expecting a new promo!

  6. LPtrue♥always™ Says:


    It’s getting really annoying with everybody new promos, and OTH gets nothing.

  7. naquesha Says:


    i know..i was really hoping for a promo…ahhh..1 more week guys..

  8. Brucaslover Says:


    i know right!! OTH needs new promos too geeez.

    And did anyone stick around to see the 10 o clock news. This lady kidnapped this little girl she cared for and babysat and police think she was copying OTH when Nanny Carrie kidnapped Jamie. They said she reserched that scence before she took the girl. Isnt that crazzzzy? It was just on CW11 news.

  9. CurlyForever2009 Says:


    Yeah I read about that. Thats just horrible. Heres the link to the story.

    Behind the ‘One Tree Hill’-Caylee Anthony Murder Connection
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,473449,00.html

  10. peytonOTHfan Says:


    How can we not have a new promo?!?!?

    It’s like they REALLY don’t care about promoting this show.

    I’m really surprised right now.

  11. CurlyForever2009 Says:


    They are seriously just trying to torture us.

  12. peytonOTHfan Says:


    What are the possibilities of maybe a 6×13 sneak peek?

    Are those chances down the drain for us?

  13. CurlyForever2009 Says:


    If they didnt even give us a real 6×13 promo, then the chance of a 6×13 sneak peak, um not so good. Maybe they will give us one on Friday if were lucky. If they want more viewers, they gotta give more promos and sneak peaks.

  14. Ash Says:


    The One Tree Hill needs to get their act together on this Promotion thing. One Tree Hill needs a promo. I can’t believe for the past month there wasn’t one. I think all of the CW shows have one by now for returning Episodes. I don’t really know why OTH doesn’t.

  15. LeytonTLA Says:


    so is it just me, or is it annoying anyone else that Brucas is even an option in these polls when they aren’t even a couple anymore, and they haven’t been one for like 3 seasons now lol. i don’t know… it’s just annoying when these polls act like they’re still a couple or something. nathan and haley, lucas and peyton, and mouth and millie all make sense.. but lucas and brooke?? there hasn’t been a lucas and brooke in a long time… i don’t know, maybe it’s just me! lol

  16. Nat Brat Says:


    I agree Leyton TLA. Get over the Brucas already. It’s Leyton and Naley all the way.

  17. peytonOTHfan Says:


    The voting stuff doesn’t even matter to me.

    I’m so annoyed by the no promo thing that I’m not even going to bother voting. I guess we should just hope for a surprise promo or a sneak peek and if we don’t get it, we’ll just have another week to go until the new ep.

  18. LeytonTLA Says:


    i mean i’m sure the Brucas fans really appreciate it, because the polls are all that they really have right now… but it just doesn’t make much sense to me, when Brucas is being listed and compared with couples that are actually couples still lol

  19. Ash Says:


    I don’t care for Polls. I’m just annoyed with the lack of Promos for this show. While every other damn show has at least about 2 and OTH has none for the past month. Other shows got theirs like the 2nd of break. I know that OTH are doing their own Promos this season, but damn they need something with new scenes. Instead of same old boring ones. That isn’t going to get anyone excited about tuning in.

  20. LeytonTLA Says:


    well i’ll give Mark credit though… he’s obviously doing something right, because we’re all still super anxious/excited for the new episode, even without promos! lol

  21. Mena Says:


    i love brucas and they deserve #1 even if it was a past relationship, Naley and Brucas will always b 1 and 2 in my book. even if they break up!!!!

  22. Hilarie Burton fan Says:


    Okay, thought of this. A lot of times the ads tend to forshadow a bit. Example, pediasure commercial, and the clearblue pregnancy test one. Okay they never advertise that durring OTH. Just a thought. Think about it.

  23. Hilarie Burton fan Says:


    Cause I know in the past shows have done that where they like put what’s going to happen through there ads

  24. Vivian Says:


    just because brucas isn’t a couple anymore doesn’t mean they still don’t have fans.. so i think they deserve to be up there
    about the promos thing i really think that oth gets overlooked even though they get as much viewers as gossip girls but is so much more popular for some reason. oth beats gg anyday :]

  25. ErinG Says:


    I noticed the pregnancy test too, and I thought it was interesting product placement.
    I can’t believe there wasn’t a promo. They must really just not give a crap anymore. I don’t see how they could be looking toward a season 7 at this point.

  26. tess Says:


    leytontla…y is it necessary for u to say anything. u just sound super bitter and immature. its not like brucas is getting back together so y do u even care. brucas is most likely always going to beat leyton in polls so just get over it and move on. brucas has always had a bigger fanbase. have u just realized this now? or have u just been in denial? or just plain ignorant?

  27. LeytonTLA Says:


    vivian i know that brucas still has fans, i was just saying that its annoying to ME that we still hear about brucas as much as we do, as if they’re still a couple or something, or have been a couple recently. again though, that’s just my Leyton-fan opinion. if the roles were reversed and Brucas was the couple that was engaged, i’m sure Brucas fans would be sick of hearing about Leyton if they hadn’t been a couple for 3 seasons

  28. LeytonTLA Says:


    lol tess i’m not even going to respond to that comment referring to Brucas having the bigger fanbase… talk about ignorant. no one will ever know which fanbase is bigger… period. internet polls don’t mean anything. just like Brucas has won some polls, Leyton has also won other polls. unless there is one official poll where EVERY one tree hill fan votes for their couple, no one will EVER know which fanbase is bigger. and i’m not bitter about anything actually, just annoyed by people still listing Brucas as a “couple” when they haven’t been a couple in a long time… and i have every right to be annoyed by it :)

  29. LeytonKillsBrucas! Says:


    LeytonTLA i totally agree! and brucas fans would feel the same way we do if brucas was the couple that were together. if brucas was engaged, and leyton hadn’t been together for 3 seasons (or like 5 years in the show), then brucas fans would be very annoyed if leyton was still being talked about as much as brucas is now, as if they were a couple if they aren’t. brucas fans would be JUST as “over” Leyton as we are about brucas. i dont know though, let brucas fans have their polls, they’re all that they have left at this point lol

  30. CurlyForever2009 Says:


    OH YEAH, Nathan and Haley are in the lead right now.

  31. Denise Says:


    Okay, got tired of waiting on a promo for 613 and made my own. LOL

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFhheRg2-JI

  32. Hilarie Burton fan Says:


    fyi, you can vote more than once, so don’t get your hopes up. Because I voted earlier, and I just did again.

  33. CurlyForever2009 Says:


    Hmmm weird, cause its not letting me vote again.

  34. leytonfan Says:


    They might still give us a promo.. I’m so excited that I don’t need to see a promo. This new episode is going to rock..

  35. Brucas Says:


    brucas is in the poll because the triangle is NOT over! sheesh. go brucas!!!!

  36. leytonfan Says:


    brucas is over… let it go.. gosh so annoying… go leyton.. marriage and baby…..

  37. SMB Says:


    Gooo Naley! i really hope they win “fingers crossed” :)

  38. salma Says:


    ok one yay naley in the lead and brucas is behind leyton by only 8 votes grrrr! and i hate jenny and nate together nate and vanessa rule!!!! lol off topic

  39. Helen Says:


    Voting polls always create arguments!! I think Brucas have a right to be up there, because they still have a large fan base, and they don’t want to be ignored. Just because the couple isn’t around much anymore, doesn’t mean the SHIP doesn’t exist anymore. And the poll is counting votes for the favourite SHIP, not current couples.

    As for the promo’s, I really wish we would get one, I was expecting one last night or something. Gossip girl has got like three promos, one of which was about a minute, and a sneak peek. Whereas, OTH have only got the promo’s from a few weeks ago with no new clips. But, on the bright side, everything will be completely fresh when we watch it, and I can’t wait!

  40. - Says:


    NALEY IN THE LEAD :D :D:D:D they arw the best!

  41. Maja Says:


    Yay Naley is first!!!!!!!!!!!Yay!!!!!!!!!!

  42. Brucas4evah Says:


    BRUCAS ;)

  43. Emma Says:


    Go Naley, Go Naley!!!!!

  44. Brucas4evah Says:


    I’m actually happy that OTH in general is winning.

  45. Anna Says:


    Naley for the win….they are the best couple on TV.

  46. luvleyton Says:


    Leyton just took the lead in the poll!!!!!!!!YAYAYAYAY!!

  47. luvleyton Says:


    And I tried to vote twice and it wouldn’t let me :-(

  48. Echelle Says:


    Well if you look at the other shows there are couples that aren’t together. For instance it has Nate paired with Blair and they aren’t together so just chill people! You’ve got your Leyton so who cares if we still talk about Brucas.

  49. LeytonfanTilde Says:


    Yes Leyton is on the lead! Woho!!
    Now I don’t really mind that Brucas is there too, even though they haven’t been together for three seasons they still have a lot of fans. But if the poll is vote for you fave ship, then why isn’t Chloe/Clark there?…
    I’m glad that Leyton and Naley is in the lead=D they deserve to win, because they are the best couple ever!!

  50. Marcie Says:


    Yay Leyton!!!

    I really want a promo as well…

  51. Leyton=TLA Says:


    yaa really…..
    a couple months ago on fanpop a bunch of brucas fans were like screwing with all the leyton fans and like giving us a whole bunch of shit about how chad and sophie were married so brooke and lucas should be together..i mean come on, get over it already
    the word “brucas” shoukd of already been desroyed in the english dictionary by now.

  52. - Says:


    when are we getting a promo????!

  53. Jennifer Phillips Says:


    Go to CW One Tree Hill. They are showing a preview for Monday’s episode. I saw it yesterday and they took if off and put the old one on. I don’t know how to copy it and link it to this website.

  54. Dana Says:


    There is a new promo on the cwtv web site for the next episode. It looks so good. I can’t wait!!!!

  55. CurlyForever2009 Says:


    HEY GUYS, YOU WONT BELIEVE IT!!!

    WE GOT A PROMO!

    One Tree Hill 6.13 Official Promo “Things A Mama Don’t Know”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=affnwE4OqgQ

  56. LeytonTLA Says:


    ughh i just saw the promo… not looking forward to the “X”/Sam drama…. how many psycho derek and nanny carrie storylines does Mark think we need? lol

  57. Carolyn Says:


    http://cwtv.com/shows/one-tree-hill

    The new promo is up!

  58. lila Says:


    just for brucas that’s normal they are there for the votes I mean if brucas were together I wouldn’t say nothing because I’d be so happy cause they’d be together so u leyton fans I don’t understand why u are always bashing brucas u have leyton so just be happy everything is fine for u that’s just an advice

  59. lila Says:


    oh and please sneak peak

  60. lila Says:


    *sneak peek

  61. Ella Says:


    Including BL in the polls doesn’t really make sense to me. It’s like why don’t we throw Peyton and Nathan in there too. Hell, even Skillz and Deb. Where are they at? Or Mouth and Gigi?
    I’m not a huge fan of polls anyways. BL fans are always all over them and people act like their ship is endgame or has more fans depending on who wins.

  62. lila Says:


    yes but they can’t put all the couple can u imagine!!!!!!!!I think they put the most popular and that’s normal they put brucas because they are one of the tree most popular oth couple and neyton were together just for a few episodes so…

  63. hannah Says:


    haha that is really sad how brucas hasn’t been a couple in forever but has almost as many votes as leyton….hmm thats saying something. maybe fans are finally getting tired of their cheesiness and peytons constant whining and need for attention. give us the old lucas and peyton back at least mark so its not painful to watch!

  64. LeytonKillsBrucas! Says:


    yeah… maybe mark should just give us the old brooke and lucas back… with all of the cheating, lies, insecurities, lucas never putting brooke first… lord knows that wasn’t painful to watch lol talk about a healthy relationship

  65. Ella Says:


    Um….I didn’t imagine those couples….They were all actually couples.

    There is obviously still a huge and overly loud BL fanbase, but BL are not a couple anymore and there have been no indications that that will change anytime soon.

    If they were choosing by popularity then where is Jake and Peyton? They have a pretty large fanbase, themselves.

  66. Ella Says:


    Hannah,
    there is obviously still a huge bl fanbase and they are always all over different polls and forums. They will be until the show is over and even after. Even if the show ends with Lucas and Peyton living the blissed out white picket fence American Dream, BL will always wins by a nose or win by a landslide, because of the amount of BL fans who hang out online.
    There is nothing sad or telling about this poll at all. Its actually pretty normal.

    Although I do agree about LP being a little painful to watch and I don’t think they are too cheesy. NH win that prize imo everytime. I just happen to think CMM is a really crappy actor and Hilarie as much as I ADORE that woman, is not much better. The whole show has become a bit painful to watch and I only keep up with what is going on online. When the show is actually on I always doing something else with one eye on the screen.

    This show has run its course for me and it won’t return to its prior goodness.

  67. Mrs. Peyton Scott (LPthecomet)... it's got a little bit to do with fate, destiny, what's written in the stars. Says:


    LP WINNING BY A LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  68. Angel Says:


    what is this all about?

  69. Leytonismycandy Says:


    I’m not trying to be mean but I think it’s rather disrespectful to have Brucas as a option.

    I don’t care if leyton is leading now. I think it’s wrong to have them up there.

    THEY ARE NOT A COUPLE.

    They haven’t been a couple for years.

    And I don’t care if they have a fanbase. Fact is fact. They are not together. Jeyton had a huge fanbase and that option is not up there.

    It’s not our fault Brooke hasn’t created another successful pairing that would warrent a new pairing on polls for her.

  70. Christy Says:


    Naley and Leyton were tied when I voted, and I totally voted for Naley!!!!! They are the greatest TV couple ever!

  71. gigi Says:


    im a complete and totally obsessed leyton fan but i think naley deserves it. they have been through so much and no matter what comes between them they always get through it and there love gets them through it. there the ones who deserve the top slot.
    then leyton
    then mouth and millicent
    and in my opinion those who think that lucas and brooke deserve, i dont think they do because if they were the “best ship” they would still be together

  72. lila Says:


    well I have nothing to say anymore I don’t bl fan were as mean as u leyton when bl were together I really don’t understand u are just looking for another couple war to tell again how leyton is still together ok it’s a fact but what are u always again brucas even when leyton is together I’m sure if they put jeyton u wouldn’t say nothing about that u wouldn’t say it’s disrespectful for leyton even if peyton who is a part of leyton was with jake That doesn’t mean nothing what u do and I that’s what u which is disrespectful for brucas

  73. lila Says:


    *I don’t think bl fan…

  74. lila Says:


    *leytoners

  75. lila Says:


    *why are u…

  76. lila Says:


    *think that’s what u do…

  77. lila Says:


    sorry if I made a lot of mistakes but I still think what I meant lol

  78. lila Says:


    *against (and no again)

  79. LindcasFan Says:


    uhhh… hold up… why the hell aren’t Lucas and Lindsey in this poll?!?!?!? some of us Lindcas fans would like to vote too!!!! hahahahahaha… just kidding guys… :)

  80. Chloeeeeeee_x Says:


    Leyton FTW! They are together, engaged and a baby on the way. I think the “Triangle” Is well and truly over now! =)))

  81. lila Says:


    yes but brucas was a couple and will always be for us blers I think if u were at our place u woulddn’t say the same thing imagine just one second if you were at our place and you’ll understand

  82. ashley Says:


    Mark is too full of himself to care about anything than his own opinion. He is obsessed with peyton for some reason. If I EVER hear the “from the pilot” argument again, I’m gonna freak out! I hate Pucas but what really infuriates me is that stupid Mark refuses to give Brooke a guy that would love her. Peyton the slunt deserves better than Brooke? Seriously???

  83. LeytonTLA Says:


    totally agree Chloeeeeeee_x! plus the fact that Mark has told us himself that the triangle is “romantically over”. and lila i know it’s hard for Brucas fans, i know it would be hard on me if i were in your shoes. but at the same time, i would try to not necessarily move on from Brucas, but i would try to accept the idea that Lucas COULD end up with someone other than Brooke. i think the more you hold on to what Brucas WAS, i think it’s just going to make it that much harder on you if (or when) they don’t end up together. i know that’s probably easier said than done, but that’s what i would be doing if i were a Brucas fan… just trying to accept the possibility of Lucas and Brooke ending up with other people

  84. Ella Says:


    To say it is disrespectful to include BL in the poll is a stretch.
    But it does make sense that some people would be confused that they would be included in the poll seeing as they haven’t been a couple for over two seasons, despite the fanbase they have.
    Jake and Peyton were a couple so why aren’t they on the list? Or Lindsey and Lucas although their fanbase is significantly smaller.
    I think LP fans are in a different position than BL fans are now, because although we know what it’s like to have our ship ignored, we also had the benefit of knowing that LP would happen eventually.
    I think a lot of LP fan frustration is that BL fans don’t see the difference. There was always hints that LP would get back together, while BL fans don’t have that luxury and have nothing to hold onto aside from things Lucas said to Brooke and then took back.

    I’m not saying you shouldn’t hope, but to the lp fan it seems baseless.
    I personally don’t care how many times they put BL on relationship polls because there is no evidence that they will ever happen again…unless Peyton dies. :(

  85. LeytonTLA Says:


    ashley, who ever said that Mark wasn’t going to give Brooke a guy in the end that loves her? the show isn’t over yet, just because Brooke doesn’t have a guy right now doesn’t mean that she won’t in the end

  86. LpNhFOREVER Says:


    It does not matter whose in the lead as long as its Naley or Leyton. I love both of them so either one is fine with me.

  87. italiantay Says:


    even though we know buddytv isn’t that great of a poll site, here’s another “top relationship of 2008″ poll… it has alot of couples, but oth ones are on there too.

    http://www.buddytv.com/battle/display.aspx?bid=3002380

  88. Ash Says:


    ITA! Ella – Nicely said from both sides.

  89. Chloeeeeeee_x Says:


    Ella, well said from both perspective. But I disagree with you on one point; Lucas POSSIBLY ending up with broke IF Peyton dies. I mean, why would a guy, who just lost the love of his life, end up getting back together, with his ex, which also happens to be his dead wife’s best friend, and the girl he cheated one. O.o! The mind boggles.

    No disrespect to BL fans because I know how it feel [S5 was painful for LPers], but the way I see it is, Broke and Lucas are over romantically, but will always have a close friendship.

  90. Chloeeeeeee_x Says:


    *On

  91. LindcasFan Says:


    yeah… even though i’ve said that ANYTHING is possible on this show (which we all know it is), i think once Mark says himself that a couple is done, then that’s when the Brucas fans should be like okay, maybe it’s time that we start moving on from Brucas. i mean i completely understand pulling for your dream couple, but now that the CREATOR of the show has said that they won’t be going back down that road again, i think it’s time to come to terms with the fact that it’s just over. i mean those words have come out of Mark’s mouth… what more do you all need??

  92. LPtrue♥always™ Says:


    BuddyTV can have a seat with their Couples vs. Couples poll. At least this one is simple. Pick you Couple and your DONE!

  93. Brucas Says:


    wow some LPers are so annoyed by Brucas being in the poll… why? because we were winning at one point? or because we’re not down by a bigg difference now? u guys seem a little INSECURE about your couple? and a lot of u say, we dont need to vote for our couple…seems like you are now arent ya? anyways, brucas being in this poll for 2009, MAJOR BRUCAS HOPE! why would they be in the poll if they arent going to happen again? of course they are going to happen again, theres possibly a season 7!!! i dont know why you guys even like LP, its just always so forced and..dumb. he wrote the comet, didnt even know it was a love story, and NO ONE showed up to his signing. it must have been some horrible writing. just shows LP arent so epic after all.

  94. peytonOTHfan Says:


    BRUCAS, I can care less about polls so I’m gonna comment on that.

    I just wanted to say that what you said about LP being forced and dumb and you don’t know why anyone would even ship them was hurtful and unnecessary, and your comment about Lucas’ book doesn’t even make any sense.

  95. peytonOTHfan Says:


    * I’m NOT going to comment on that.

  96. lila Says:


    well I still have hopes and more if there is a season 7

  97. LeytonTLA Says:


    Brucas, that comment was ridiculous… clearly WE aren’t the ones that are bitter and insecure lol. we’re annoyed with Brucas being in the polls because news flash… THERE IS NO BRUCAS! it’s not that hard to understand. like Lindcasfan said, Mark has said himself that the triangle is romantically over, and that they aren’t going down the Brucas road again.

    having hope is one thing, but saying “ofcourse Brucas will happen again” is just denial. and you can talk all you want about how you don’t understand how anyone can like LP… but you don’t want to get us started on how people could possibly like BL.

    insecurity, lies, cheating, Lucas never putting Brooke first, lack of emotional connection, “non exclusive” dating, Lucas fighting for Brooke but Brooke NOT fighting for Lucas, love that DIDN’T LAST = BRUCAS… enough said :)

  98. CurlyForever2009 Says:


    Naley and Leyton are a tie!

  99. LeytonKillsBrucas! Says:


    brucas, “why would brucas be in the poll if they aren’t going to happen again?”… what on earth does that even mean? lol. just because they are in that poll, doesn’t mean that they’re in there because they are going to happen again… that’s kind of an absurd assumption. that poll wasn’t even made by anyone that has anything to do with the show. the people that made that poll don’t know anything about what couples are/aren’t going to happen again in those shows. they just put Brucas into the poll because they know that Brucas has a big fanbase… not because they are going to happen again.

    if you still have hope for Brucas after everything that has been given to you from MARK, and the show… then more power to you i guess. but i personally don’t understand at all how anyone doesn’t have it through their head by now that Brucas is over lol. Leyton is engaged, and now Peyton is clearly pregnant… i think that just put the icing on the cake for Leyton. there is no way Lucas would go back to Brooke now after everything that he has been through with Peyton… and there’s no way that Brooke would go back to him either. for Lucas and Brooke to get back together now after all the damage that has been done to them, would just be ridiculous and wouldn’t make any sense at all

  100. LaurenLovesOTH4ever Says:


    I knew Naley would be in the lead but looks whos second!!!! LEYTON!!! <3

  101. Sian Says:


    why shouldn’t brucas be in the poll? especially as it for shipping. The fact that Brucas have not been a couple for a while does not mean they have no fans. -.- i find it hard to see how you find it ‘annoying’ that they’re on there, unless the sight of their two names next to each other gives you anxiety worries or something?

  102. Ella Says:


    LOL, Brucas. Do did seriously equate low book sales for the Comet to LP not being an epic couple? Ravens is being made into a movie. In your world of strange reasoning shouldn’t that make LP epic, seeing as Lucas told the world he was always and forever be in love with Peyton Sawyer?

    How is some obscure couples poll on a website that has nothing to do with OTH supposed to give you hope? Does Portrait Magazine know something we don’t? I doubt it.
    See it’s this type of skewed reasoning that makes me think a lot of BL fans simply don’t know what they are talking about.

  103. LeytonTLA Says:


    haha exactly Ella! i don’t understand how Brucas being in this poll would be considered as “giving Brucas fans hope” either… like Portrait Magazine has anything to do with OTH lol. i don’t know… whatever makes Brucas fans sleep better at night i guess…

  104. Angel Says:


    Brucas – Your comment was interesting. I don’t even care for BL/LP/NH/ any couple on this damn. I don’t really care for them. But your comment is something else. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess. Good Luck with that. I hope you know Portrait Magazine and OTH have nothing to do with each.

    It’s funny I haven’t even hear of the magazine, but I look it up and found out why I have never. Because it’s not an actual Magazine. It’s just a website that’s designed to look and function like a teen magazine. It’s for tv-shows/teen celebrities fans. It’s run by High School and College students around the world. So that’s why I never heard of it before, and if it isn’t something I can buy off a stand. I Don’t really give a rat ass about.

    Either way all this fighting is really useless to tell you the truth. Because it polls like these are pretty meaningless, and just the same people willing to sit at their computer and vote 24/7. So it’s whatever to me. But hey whatever floats LPers/BLers/NHers boats I guess. (not saying all fans).

  105. Brucas Says:


    lol u guys r funny. BRUCAS IS IN THE LEAD!!!!!!!!!!! .
    u guys r forgetting that brucas has a major fanbase which is why they’re in the poll in the first place dont be too bummed out LPers, LP is in third n are very close!! but my brucas is first andd

    LeytonTLA, there isss BRUCAS newsflash, brooke is alive and so is lucas so as far as i can remember there is a brucas!!! however, good for all u guys for defending LP, i stand by my ship though. BL FOREVER! Happy New Year everyone!!

  106. LeytonTLA Says:


    technically yes, there is a Brucas, just because Lucas and Brooke are both in the show. but my point was that there is no Brucas ROMANTICALLY… which i’m sorry, but no one can argue that lol

  107. LindcasFan Says:


    brucas is over… period. anyone who thinks otherwise needs to wake the hell up lol. i’m not even a Leyton fan and even i can see that Brucas is just NOT happening. MARK SAID HIMSELF THAT THEY’RE NOT GOING DOWN THAT ROAD AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! god some of you all are just blind lol. that’s all i’m gonna say about it…

  108. AlwaysBRUCAS Says:


    okay….lindcas fan. LINDCAS IS OVER PERIOD. does that hurt? i dont actually mean that because i liked lindcas but trying to make a point thats all.

    i am awake, just like many other BL fans =] open ur damn eyes maybe u’ll something different. if not, then WHOCARES im not telling u to convert to a BLer. i like Brucas and i dont care if u guys say its over, i believe its not. and mark said, i dont want to go down that road again but ANYTHING can happen in tree hill.

    LeytonTLA, just lay off seriously. its new years eve! let us BLers be happy for once! its a recent poll with over 1000 votes and BL is winning so let us be happy, you at least have LP as a couple on the show so seriously dude shut up. oh and like i said, LP isnt that far from BL in the poll anyway so cheer up. =]

    i know BL arent together romantically, but one can always hope for a turn around. once again, im not the only BL fan. theres LOTS!! poll kinda proves it dont u think?

  109. LindcasFan Says:


    umm no… you saying Lindcas is over does not hurt lol. we’re not even talking about them… the difference is that i’m not on here saying that Lucas and Lindsey are going to get back together, so there’s no reason for you to tell me that they’re over. since i’m a Lindcas fan, of course i’m secretly HOPING that they’ll get back together somehow, but i’m not going to make myself sound stupid and say “they WILL get back together”. so yes, there’s a difference here. when Brucas fans get on here and say “of course Brucas will get back together”, i’m sorry but i think they’re just asking for a wake up call. the fact that they still have fans really just means nothing. they can have as many fans as they want to… but Mark’s not going to put them back together JUST because they have fans. at this point, reuniting Brucas would make NO sense. the show’s storyline just isn’t in their favor at this point. Leyton is getting married, AND having a baby… like come on.

    i just think it’s WAY past time for Brucas fans to start moving on. if you all want to hope they’ll get back together, then of course you have every right to do that. but when you all say things like “of course they’ll end up together”, i’m sorry but that just sounds ridiculous at this point lol. EVERYTHING that’s going on in the show these days is working AGAINST them, not for them. i just really really don’t understand your all’s logic.

  110. LeytonTLA Says:


    lol AlwaysBRUCAS, you can single me out all you want, but i’m not doing or saying anything differently than anyone else is on here. just because you don’t like what i have to say, that doesn’t mean i need to “lay off”… i’m not doing or saying anything wrong, just my opinions :)

  111. sophiabush4eva Says:


    I dont care who wins, I’m just glad that One Tree Hill is in the lead:
    Brooke & Lucas [One Tree Hill] (1029)
    Lucas & Peyton [One Tree Hill] (1011)
    Nathan & Haley [One Tree Hill] (1010)

  112. gina Says:


    yaay brucas!! so sad about leyton…not.

  113. AlwaysBRUCAS Says:


    lol lindcasfan how am i making myself sound stupid saying that brucas will get back together. im sorry that you care about what ppl think first of all and second its called belief. i believe that brucas will happen again. and like LeytonTLA said, shes sharing her opinions and so am i and if u dont like it dont waste ur breath =]

    LeytonTLA, im singling u out because you ALWAYS single me out =] but by all means ur allowed to have ur opinions just like i am

    and yaaaaaaayyyyyyyy brucas is in the leaddd!!!!!!!! gina, i agree it is sad about leyton, and we’re supposed to think they are epic. pfft thats bullshit.

  114. peytonOTHfan Says:


    How is can anything be sad? It’s an…online poll. (???)

  115. LeytonTLA Says:


    lol you’re right… i guess Leyton isn’t epic JUST because they aren’t leading in some stupid online poll (even though they ARE in second, but whatever). this is just so dumb… if you don’t like Leyton, or if you “don’t believe” that they are epic then great… but there are PLENTY of people out there that DO. just because they aren’t placing first in an online poll doesn’t take away from them as a couple in the least.

    i mean look at Naley… they aren’t in first place either, but is anyone taking anything away from their love because they aren’t winning? no. for some reason you’re only applying it to Leyton… because you’re just bitter that Lucas is with Peyton and not Brooke. and again… us Leyton fans aren’t “sad” that we aren’t winning a poll… IT’S JUST A POLL! we have something better than a dumb poll, we have our couple together, engaged, and expecting a baby! so believe me… nobody is sad (except maybe Brucas fans) :D

  116. LoooooveLEYTON Says:


    you rock LeytonTLA lol

  117. Brucas4evah Says:


    I’ve read all kind if crap here and it really made me laugh.

    1. Yay for Brucas in the lead!!!
    2. Yay for OTH in the lead!
    3. I don’t understand what the hell is wrong with you if you’re annoyed or depressed that Brucas is an option in this poll. Polls are made to collect people’s opinions about something. Wonna my opinion? Brucas is still the best couple. Period.
    4. LindcasFan – if you don’t feel anything when you know/hear that your is over that I doesn’t even know why you ship them.
    5. Leyton TLA and AlwaysBRUCAS – try being less rude in 2009
    6. This “insecure”, “cheating” or whatever you call it Brucas has always been MUCH more fun for me to watch even when things weren’t so good. I’ve never enjoyed LP exept for 2 scenes (S1 Lp almost having sex in the hotel, because their was unbelievable at that moment and I’ve never seen it again and S4 Lp cookie dough fight bacause it was fun to watch)
    7. Don’t you even try bashing point 6 cause it’s an opinion and I could care less about what you wonna contradict
    8. Brucas is not over till the show is over
    9. Breaking down hope doesn’t make you right! It makes you pathetic!

  118. Brucas4evah Says:


    * all kind of crap

  119. gina Says:


    if its just a poll why do you always have to respond and comment about it?? lol you know you’re pissed that brucas is winning so why don’t you just admit it! letytontla why don’t you just let some of the brucas comments go. let them have their opinion and leave them alone. and you say their comments don’t deserve a response but you respond anyway lol

  120. Jess Says:


    brucas fans’ comments dont deserve a response, but she probably responds because their comments are too annoying and ridiculous NOT to respond to lol

  121. Jess Says:


    and yes us leyton fans are pissed that brucas is winning, but not because we are threatened by them or anything (because believe me, we’re not). we’re pissed because they no longer exist as a couple, and haven’t for a long time now. brucas fans are just voting for them non stop to prove a point, like its going to bring brucas back or something

  122. gina Says:


    get over it. brucas fans are never going away. deal

  123. Jess Says:


    well leyton fans and LEYTON (unlike Brucas) are never going away. deal.

  124. gina Says:


    never you say?? are you a writer of the show??? please tell me how everything is going to end.o wait you can’t because you’re just a fan and you only “think” you know how everything will end.

  125. Jess Says:


    you’re right, the show isn’t over. but according to MARK, the triangle is! :)

  126. Brucas4evah Says:


    lol Jess … after your comment (#120) I think it’s actually you who’re annoying and ridiculous and not the comments. I really have compassion with you

  127. Jess Says:


    brucas4evah i dont really need your approval… im off though, have fun living in your little brucas dreamland

  128. gina Says:


    lol shes just mad she couldn’t think of anything better to say or have a decent comeback

  129. LindcasFan Says:


    uuuhhhh… to whoever said i’m not a true Lindcas fan… i think it was Brucas4eva or something… like are you serious lol. just because i wasn’t hurt by a comment that a complete stranger made to me online, that means i’m not a true fan of my couple?? wow lol. i wasn’t hurt because first of all, i don’t know this girl at all, and she’s just a fan, she’s not tied to OTH in the least, so what she has to say about Lindcas really means nothing to me. why on earth WOULD i be hurt by what she said?

    now if Mark were to call me up one day and be like “Kristin guess what… i’ve got some bad news, your dream couple is NEVER coming back to OTH”…. then yeah i’d be a little bummed lol. but reading one person’s opinion about them on this site is not going to hurt me, sorry. that doesn’t mean i’m not a fan of them. that’s a really ignorant statement because i’m seriously probably their number 1 fan. i really do think i am lol. so yeah, just had to let you know that you’re wrong about that.

    as far as the whole Brucas/Leyton thing goes… as ALWAYS, you all will just have to agree to disagree. i personally think it couldn’t be MORE obvious that Brucas is over, but if the Brucas fans haven’t seen that by now, then it’s probably not going to happen. what can we do??

  130. LindcasFan Says:


    AND Brucas4eva… i didn’t really “feel anything” because i honestly don’t KNOW that they are over. first of all someone telling me they’re over on here doesn’t mean anything, and second of all… i’m not saying that Lindcas WILL happen again… but to be honest… the chances of my couple coming back are about 90234720836203 times greater than they are for Brucas right now. so no, i’m not hurt when a Brucas fan tells me that Lindcas is over lol.

  131. LindcasFan Says:


    and just ONE more thing lol… i have to say that i think it’s pretty obvious that Brooke and CHASE are going to end up together, not her and Lucas. i mean think about it… how many times has Mark randomly brought Chase back, like 3?? and each time it has something to do with Brooke. and now he’s bringing him back AGAIN to be with Mia… like what the hell?? there’s gotta be a reason why he keeps randomly showing up.

    the FIRST time he popped up, he just happended to be living with Brooke’s current boyfriend. the SECOND time he came back, he came to tell Brooke to call him if she needs a husband. and now it looks like this Mia thing is just another excuse to bring him back into the picture AGAIN. why else would they have him just show up every now and then?? it’s just weird. there’s gotta be something behind his whole storyline that we haven’t seen yet, because so far his appearances have been kind of pointless. SO yeah, i’m calling it… it’ll be Brooke and Chase in the end, not Brucas! there’s gotta be a reason why they keep bringing his character back.

  132. Brucas4evah Says:


    lol … I never meant it that way but you’re funny
    as I wrote my 4th point I meant that if you don’t feel anything in general and not only from fan.
    In my eyes you don’t ship your couple as much as some Brucasfans on this forum or at least you imply that and that’s why you don’t understand the fact that if the idea of our couple being over, the idea of destroying something beautiful(in my eyes) hurts us, we’re not “a little bummed”. When someone tells us that Brucas is over it hurts , but we don’t back down. Faith keeps us going and hope gives us strength!

    I never said you’re not a LindcasFan and I never said you must be hurt by AlwaysBRUCAS’ comment, but I really think that if you don’t feel anything when you think about your couple being stopped either you don’t understand me, either you not really ship them

  133. LindcasFan Says:


    i love Lindcas. period. yes the thought of them not ending up together sucks but just because i’m not gonna go kill myself like Brucas fans would, doesn’t mean i’m not a fan of them. i don’t even know why we’re still talking about this lol. you don’t know me or know how much i love this couple. just because i’m not affected by someone’s comment on here doesn’t mean i don’t love them. i love my couple just as much as you love yours, i’m just not obnoxious about it. that’s all.

  134. Angel Says:


    I totally agree with others that have said why even bother commenting back. I don’t see why LPers even bother responding back to each other. Just let it go. Let BLers go on and on. I frankly don’t give rats ass/crap about all OTH ships. But…

    If I was an LP fan I would just not respond at all. Take into the fact you guys have what matters the most LP are together/Happy starting a family and getting Married. Just remember that. They are on your screen and living.

    You guys are getting what matter the most and nothing is going to change that no polls, no bribing, no attack Mark at Charity Games, etc…. Nothing, all you did was be Patience and it’s paying off. So If I were you guys I would just ignore everything else and not respond.

  135. AlwaysBRUCAS Says:


    Lindcasfan, if you were really a lindcas fan you wouldnt give up hope for one second. yea u can say its “denial” or whatever, i like to call if belief. as for what you said about which couple has better chances of getting back together its not lindcas LOL i just laughed when u said that because lindsay is on another show not to mention brucas is wayyyyyyyyy better than lindcas. i liked lindcas and id like to have them instead of leyton but think about this the 86 letters havent been mentioned yet (in the letter brooke might’ve wrote about the kiss in new york
    mark can change the whole story in just one eppy and as the mention of lucas’ tatoo and the kiss was brought up this season i can totally see BL happening. do u remember anything they said about lindcas this season? except for Peyton laughing when Lucas said he’s going to call her instead. yea soo brucas has a way better chance of happening. but suit urself, ur allowed to hope. =]

  136. Jess Says:


    AlwaysBRUCAS, i actually have to agree with LindcasFan on this one… at this point Lindcas reuniting would even make WAY more sense than Brucas. we haven’t heard anything about Brucas romantically in what like… 3 seasons now, or 5 years in the show? where as we JUST saw Lindcas not even a whole season ago. Lucas just spent ALL of season 5 chasing after Lindsey, and he just now started moving on from her this season. it would make perfect sense for Mark to throw in little comments about Brucas (such as their NY kiss) just to keep the Brucas fans interested and throw them a bone, since Mark has said many times that he doesn’t want to alienate the Brucas fanbase.

    Brucas is just much more in the past than Lindcas is. plus, Brooke and Lucas have had complete closure, a while ago (after the bball banquet)… Lucas and Lindsey never really got that closure. not that i’m doubting that Leyton will last or anything, but i do agree that if Lucas were to get back together with anyone OTHER than Peyton at this point, i can definitely see it being Lindsey before Brooke. i’m sorry to say it, but i think Brooke is the very last option for Lucas at this point lol

  137. Jess Says:


    OH and not to mention that Lindsey has also gotten a proposal from Lucas… last time i checked, Brooke was the only girl out of the three that he has never proposed to

  138. LindcasFan Says:


    hahahahahaha… thank you Jess. you pretty much just said everything that i was thinking. it’s good to know that there are still people out there who can see the obvious.

    and Alwaysbrucas, WHY in the world are you continuing to tell me that i’m not a true Lindcas fan?? like are you kidding me? when did i ever say that i didn’t have faith for my couple?? i believe what i said was i’m not going to make myself sound dumb by getting on here and saying that they WILL be together, when right now it’s Leyton. because i’m sorry, but you do sound ridiculous when you get on here and act like Brucas is actually still dating or something. just because i’m not plastering my love for them all over this site doesn’t mean i’m not a fan. so sorry but you’re way off as far as that goes.

    and yes… Lindcas definitely makes 23094203490 times more sense at this point than Brucas. its JUST like Jess said… Lucas and Lindsey never really got any closure, and they have had episodes together THIS season, talking about their relationship and what not. when was the last time we saw Brucas romantically… oh that’s right… SEASON FREAKIN 4!!!!!!!!!!! lol that’s just insane. so yeah, Lindsey is definitely the next option after Peyton. i would say Brooke is like… number 10 or something. haha. considering she IS the only girl who HASN’T gotten a proposal… yeah sounds like he really loves her…

  139. LindcasFan Says:


    AND not only did Lindsey get a proposal… but he said I DO to her at the alter. when has he ever agreed to spend the rest of his life with Brooke?? i’m PRETTY sure he hasn’t…

  140. Brucas4evah Says:


    Jess, You’re really growing on me now. The way you explained your opinion without being rude is amazing.

    … I’m glad Lucas haven’t proposed yet to Brooke, cause we desperately need at least one amazingly great proposal for the next season

  141. Jess Says:


    i just think that being rude is kind of pointless, being rude isn’t going to get your point across any better. but with that being said, i still can’t see Lucas proposing to Brooke after he has proposed twice to Peyton, is now engaged to Peyton, and they are now expecting a baby.

    i mean maybe i’m wrong and Mark will pull something out of his little magic writers hat or something, but i really can’t see Mark being able to successfully pull off a Brucas reunion at this point. as others have said, i think too much damage has been done to Brucas for them to all of a sudden make sense again as a couple

  142. LeytonTLA Says:


    totally agree with Jess, as far as the whole Lindcas before Brucas thing… very well said Jess!

  143. Ella Says:


    woooooooow guys. I remember arguments like this in elementary school. I really do. This is insane. You should ALL be nicer in the new year.

    As an LP fan I don’t actually care if BL wins every best couples poll on the internet. Nor do I care that they’re included in the polls. I just don’t think it is indicative of anything that is happening or will happen on the show.
    LP are a couple now and there is no indication that they will not end the show with them as a couple so BL fans can whoop about some obscure websites poll all they want and say LP losing makes them less epic(um really?). The truth is LP fans would be doing the same thing.

    Since Peyton and Nathan are still on the show, there is still a Lathan/ Peythan? just as there is still a brucas. And there is hope for them to get back together as well if that is some BL fans reasoning.

    What I find funny, aside from some to be adults fighting like 9 year olds about fictional people is some BL fans abilities to respond to some LP comments(and by that I mean the rude ones) and ignore the ones that make logical sense. But then again I have never seen a lot of logic in any BL and some LP arguments.

  144. LindcasFan Says:


    very well said Ella. the point you made about there no longer being a Brathan or Peythan, even though the characters are still on the show, was brilliant. if that’s true for those couples, then why should Brucas be any different? yes their INDIVIDUAL characters still exist, but them as a couple does not, and hasn’t for a long time.

    at the end of the day… it’s Leyton. at least it is for right now. all the Brucas fans celebrating about their couple winning in a few polls, isn’t going to bring them back to the show. but… whatever works for ya i guess.

  145. ChrisKellersWorkHereIsDone Says:


    Ella – very well said. This bickering back and forth is just really annoying and meaningless. I am just surprised that both Brucas and Leyton have more votes than Naley! I can’t wait to see who wins the poll and then move on :)

  146. AlwaysBRUCAS Says:


    Jess you explained your points very well but I disagree with somethings
    u know to start with time…Leyton havent been together in over 3 years
    and he was with Lindsay. now hes with Peyton but BROOKE was still a choice not
    too long ago. Brucas is still sometimes linked together romantically, like this season
    Peyton talks about that tattoo he got WHEN HE WAS GOING OUT WITH BROOKE
    yea it was 4 years ago but Leyton also just got together after being apart for 3 years.
    lol as for Mark throwing bones, he said he’s not going to give us anymore bones
    so im guessing all the stuff about Brucas this season are hints because they definitely arent bones

    closure?? how come Brooke felt all uncomfortable and felt like
    she had to take a “walk” when she walked in on Leyton in Honeygrove? she walked away
    when she saw Lucas in the hospital with Peyton by his side…why wouldnt she just come in?
    next season they showed the kiss in NY…how come she said “you probably wont be seeing me for a while”
    and “Lucas Scott would’ve been the one boy I might’ve lost it for”…he was there for her and angie.
    and she gave him the purple monkey. remember what Lucas said to Brooke “she’ll love the girl
    who gives it to her” and Brooke ended up giving the monkey to him. he remembered that she had
    a purple monkey like that of her own. now this season you already know all the BL things that
    have been mentioned except the dream sequence. both LL and LP dreams seemed right
    but the BL dream was so off. they made it look like both were work-oriented and that
    they had no time for family/friends when thats not even true. tshi season Brooke lost
    her company and all last season she wanted to have a baby…i dont see Lucas’ logic in this at all
    and his 1940’s eppy made it look like Brooke was jealous because of Leyton
    but in the end she tried saving both of them and turned the gun on Dan remember…
    Lucas said he’d save Brooke if she promised to save him back or something…i just dont get
    if Brucas was actually over, why would Lucas still have her like that in his dream,
    as a girl that is still in love with him?…

    Lindcas did get closure. she told him she lied when she told him she was seeing someone
    and he still called Peyton. hes now suddenly engaged to Peyton and when he told her
    she accepted that BECAUSE she said “that was the couple she was rooting for in the book”
    now the book is being made into a movie and maybe we’ll see why she rooted for Leyton
    and not Brucas…how exactly did Lucas even write in Brucas in the novel?
    but anyways

    and as for Lindsay and Peyton being the only girls proposed too by Lucas…well
    Brooke was the first to see the ring =] and at least she was the first girl
    that got [to pretend] to be engaged to Lucas (in NY)…rememeber that the best is always saved for last

    lol Lindcas, you said has he ever agreed to spend the rest of his life with Brooke?
    well not exactly but remember Peyton asked who do you want next to you when all your dreams
    come true, he said BROOKE…and when they first started dating he took Brooke to the
    rivercourt and said this is my world and she asked where she fits in, and he said
    your the biggest part…you know where im going with this

    sorry for the long post

  147. LindcasFan Says:


    lol ALL that stuff DOESN’T MATTER!!!! you know why??? because it was like a million years ago!!!! god this is so ridiculous. the reason the BL dream was so “off”, is because that’s how their relationship really was. it was off. all 3 dreams were incredibly accurate. they did a great job of showing how each relationship was in real life.

    the Leyton dream was typical Leyton… just comfortable and content. the Lindcas dream was typical Lindcas, again, just comfortable and happy. the Brucas dream however, was TOTALLY Brucas!! while Leyton/Lindcas talked about how happy they were, and how they deserve great things, Brucas was talking about “coming home being sexy” and Brooke wanting to make sure she liked her presents. Brucas’ relationship was COMPLETELY materialistic and sexual. and Lucas’ dream portrayed that PERFECTLY. i don’t see how anyone can watch them and think they’re cute. it’s really superficial and disturbing.

    and no, while you think Lindcas got closure, they also threw in a lot of hints in that episode that could be taken as signs that they’re not done. but Brucas has been NOTHING but friendship since season 4!!!! Peyton making remarks about them as a couple does not make them romantically involved, that’s the stupidest thing i’ve ever heard. so yes… Lindsey is for sure an option before Brooke.

  148. LeytonTLA Says:


    AlwaysBRUCAS, i really truly did try and read your post to understand where you are coming from… i even read it twice, and even after that, it still doesn’t make much sense to me. the only thing that i really was able to fully comprehend from your post, and agree with, was the part about the Brucas dream sequence. you’re right… the dream showed them as being far from a happy couple. and i think that means something, because we have to remember one thing, the dreams were from LUCAS’ point of view, it’s how Lucas pictured his life with each of the girls. so according to Lucas himself, he knew that he wouldn’t be truly happy with Brooke, just like he has never been truly 100% happy with her or has never been able to fully give his heart to her completely, which is why he didn’t pick her.

    and as for the rest of your post goes, if that is how you have interpreted the past few seasons for Brucas, then i guess that’s just how you interpreted them. but while some of the things you mentioned DID happen (quotes between Brucas, the purple monkey, Brooke seeing the ring first, Lucas being there for angie), i don’t think any of it means that Brucas isn’t over. i think those things that you talked about were either things from their PAST as a couple, that aren’t relevant anymore, or they are things from the recent couple of seasons that represent their FRIENDSHIP.

    overall, i think a lot of your explanation is just your Brucas point of view, that is extremely streched to make it seem like Brucas isn’t over… when really, none of those points proved that Brucas is still ROMANTICALLY relevant. i think your points talked a lot about their romantic history from high school, and a lot about their FRIENDSHIP in the present, but i didnt see anything that made me believe that they could be anything more than friends in the future

  149. AlwaysBRUCAS Says:


    lol Lindcasfan, thats all your opinion why dont u state some facts?
    how does that dream even relate to Brucas? they were both work oriented..
    thats not how they even really are. to me it just seems that lucas thinks
    brooke doesnt have time for a family. which is totally wrong but if you think
    that the BL dream was accurate then ur pretty dumb. im starting to question
    if u even watch the show

    ok so why dont u tell me some signs that YOU saw that lindcas isnt done

    and if brucas only had friendship since season 4 what about the kiss in NY?
    theres so much more but i already said it in the comment above so u can
    go back n read if u like =] id like the know the “remarks” i made
    about them being a couple. i dont see u explaining urself at all.
    just because u say that lindsay is an option b4 brooke doesnt make it true
    why not try backing it up…

    leytonTLA did u fail english? if u read it twice…u really need help.
    but thanks for reading it anyway. u always say that things i say
    are no longer relevant anymore but u are forgetting
    that these things didnt happen to long ago, in fact a lot of these
    things happened this season and some at the end of the very last season
    …soo dont jump ahead n say its irrelevant =]

    and if you think that facts are just my POV …u really need to
    catch up. =]

  150. LindcasFan Says:


    lol AlwaysBRUCAS you are ridiculous. you tell me to state facts… when EVERYTHING you’ve said about Brucas is just how YOU interpret things. they aren’t facts. just because Brooke gave Lucas a freakin purple monkey doesn’t mean they’ll get back together. so i’m sorry but you’re the dumb one if you really think that’s true.

    and yeah him and Brooke kissed in NY… WHILE HE WAS DEPRESSED ABOUT LOSING PEYTON. right after the kiss he says “i feel lost Brooke i don’t know what to do without her”… call me crazy but, sounds like a rebound to me. not real romantic.

    and i did back up what i said about Lindsey being his next best option, not Brooke. in fact i even had a couple people agree with me. so you’re the minority on that one, which means YOU’RE the one who has some defending to do, not me. if you can’t see by now that Brucas just doesn’t exist, then it’s hopeless. no need for you to try to turn it around on me or LeytonTLA and tell us that we’re dumb just because we don’t see where you’re coming from. because honestly, a lot of what you say about them makes no sense whatsoever, and no, i did not fail english. your so called theories on why you think Brucas will end up together are just so far fetched, only Brucas fans would understand it lol. i’m done.

  151. LPtrue♥always™ Says:


    Lindcasfan, I agree with this:

    “…the Brucas dream however, was TOTALLY Brucas!! while Leyton/Lindcas talked about how happy they were, and how they deserve great things, Brucas was talking about “coming home being sexy” and Brooke wanting to make sure she liked her presents. Brucas’ relationship was COMPLETELY materialistic and sexual. and Lucas’ dream portrayed that PERFECTLY. i don’t see how anyone can watch them and think they’re cute. it’s really superficial and disturbing.”

    The BLers are too focused on the recent BL (which Brooke and Lucas are not together) and not the BL RELATIONSHIP they had in high school. This was the main reason for this dream. HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL THOSE GIRLS. And that was obviously the HS Brooke. So it’s mind boggling that some of these BLers saying its not accurate.

  152. AlwaysBRUCAS Says:


    the purple monkey thing is a hint that brooke probably still loves lucas. it doesnt mean that they are getting back together lol ur weird.

    yea but the fact that he called brooke instead of peyton after hearing that his book is being published…who does he really want standing next to him when all his dreams come true? kinda makes u wonder doesnt it. also, if brooke didnt have feelings for him why would she say “your prolly not gonna see me for a while” not to mention she also said “lucas scott might’ve been the one boy i would’ve lost it for” that night after they kissed. OH AND is lucas really loved peyton why would he even kiss Brooke? why would he have her in all these dreams?

    lol the only reason im a minority on this site is because there are more Leyton fans on this website…and can u honestly tell me that someone who likes Leyton also likes Brucas? no if they like Leyton, they’d choose lindcas over brucas any day. i dont care if im the only bl fan on this site, the poll definitely shows that brucas still exists and that it has A LOT of BL fans this is my opinion but i think there are more BL fans than Leyton. oh and Lindcas wasnt even in the poll =] =] lol to be honest, if u dont understand different POVs you are really not open-minded but whatever that really sucks for u….i didnt even ever mention a theory on how brucas will end up together..sounds like u really need to retake that english class lol. or better yet keep telling yourself that Brucas isnt going to happen. i can always dream =] im glad ur done. debating with u hasnt been very well anyways

  153. Ella Says:


    @ AlwaysBRUCAS

    I have to defend LeytonTLA, because some of your comments were just uncalled for and incredibly rude. What you stated were not facts, but merely interpretations to facts. There is a difference that LeytonTLA and Lindcas both recognize, yet you fail to do so.
    I am not trying to convince you that BL is over although in my own opinion they are and it is best that they are, because judging by Lucas’s dream about what he thinks his life with Brooke would be like, he doesn’t think too highly of a relationship with her.

    All that Purple Monkey and Angie business, in my opinion, was Mark setting it up so that it wasn’t completely off the wall when he he set up that Vegas cliffhanger.

    Stuffed animals are not facts, dude.

    I assume all BL fans are huge Brooke fans and we can all agree that season 5 and 6 Brooke is incredibly awesome and so much better than the Brooke of prior seasons. So what baffles me is BL fans wanting Brooke to compromise that goodness by getting together with Lucas, despite her telling Peyton in season 5 that her and Lucas are meant to be together. Even Brooke thinks BL is over and LP is endgame.

    Brooke will always have a soft spot in her heart for Lucas because for her he was her first love and one of the first person to see through her insecurities, which coincidentally didn’t stop him from being there for Peyton.

    Brooke is a character who is looking for something epic from herself and wants to find a man strong enough to catch her when she falls. Lucas had proved that he isn’t that guy for her even though he said “I’m the guy for you,” he took it back.

    Brooke being affected when Lucas kissed her out of desperation and drunkenness doesn’t equate to true love always. It’s Lucas hopping on Brooke when Peyton breaks his heart like he did in season one.

    1940s Brooke was not in love with Lucas. It just seemed like they had a fun fling and nothing more. Brooke’s actions towards the end of the episode just mirror the kind of person she is. She was someone who was struggling and then turned a new leaf. I don’t know how you managed to turn that into BL is back on.

    Brooke didn’t go into Luke’s hospital room because it wasn’t that long ago that they were all still at odds and she realized that beside Lucas wasn’t her place anymore. That same episode she told Lucas to come back for Peyton.

    And after all the history between BLP I would think Brooke would feel weird walking in on Lucas and Peyton doing it. And Lucas didn’t go after her. Peyton was the one who was worried about her afterwards.

    A lot of what you mentioned actually did happen a long time ago. Remember how it’s a television show? Five year gap between the end of high school and where we are on the show now.

    Also, it would be wise to mention that all of your “facts” involve Brooke and what her feelings “may” be. Where is Lucas in all of this? You can’t have a couple when one of them is in love with someone else. In fact I think Mark proved that when he ended the triangle of drama.

    Have your hope, but please know what you are talking about before you start telling people who have taken the time to read your post twice just to respond that they need to go back to school.

  154. LPtrue♥always™ Says:


    Ella I want to give you a hug! Great Post!

  155. Ella Says:


    He also didn’t call Brooke when his book was published. He was in New York where she lives and they ran into each other. Are you even watching the same show we are?

    And judging from your grammar and spelling and punctuation, you are the very last person to be telling someone they need to take an english class.

    Seriously, how old are you?

  156. AlwaysBRUCAS Says:


    im sorry Ella, are you Mark?

    you think I’m rude…let me guess, you’re a Leyton fan?
    of course you’re gonna think im rude. but LeytonTLA and Lindcas are also
    veyr rude but i think u missed that didnt u?

    obviously the purple monkey thing isnt a fact but kinda show symbolism
    thats all i was pointing out. and i even said THAT WAS AN OPINION
    but everything else i said was fact.

    or wait…are you Brooke? if u havent noticed, Brooke was
    degrading her relationship with Lucas all throughout season 5
    telling Peyton to go tell Lucas how she feels and break Lindsay’s heart.
    Brooke thinks BL shouldnt happen again I agree, but that doesnt change
    that she might still possibly be in love with him and is maybe regretting
    letting him go. AGAIN THIS ISNT A FACT! but could be u know.
    but seriously does bother some BL fans like me that there are so many
    LP cheerleaders on the show all of a sudden. when really not everyone
    even likes LP

    uhh yea he took that back, but he also said it to her at one point
    he even said he’ll fight for her? im sorry but did he ever fight for
    Peyton? lol again, when Lucas was drunk he kissed Brooke and
    to Peyton he said I hate you. even though i dont think he hates Peyton
    theres still a difference in what he does and says.

    and again, the 1940s eppy, are you Mark? did you know that
    Brooke was/wasnt in love with Lucas. i have to say you must
    be a great mindreader. this eppy showed that Brooke cared for Lucas
    and she let him go because she knew he had this thing with Peyton
    so she just let go. kinda like how the real story is dont u think?

    yea and see how good a friend Brooke is. sacrifice. if she loved lucas
    she let him go. she told him to go to peyton, to come back for her,
    and in NY she said peyton will come back. thats a pretty great friend
    if u ask me. but that doesnt change that she probably might still have
    feelings for him. she might be regretting it, u never know.

    lol lucas isnt gonna run after her while sleeping with peyton
    what kinda msg would that send to peyton..and brooke lol
    he just got with peyton. all im saying is that it looked like
    she regretted breaking up with him.

    lol where is lucas in all of this? these are his dreams!
    in his dreams, he dreams of brooke being a girl who is
    in love with him or “insecurely” in love with him. also when
    his dreams came true, he called Brooke in NY not Peyton.
    says something to me but okay. lucas has a conflicted heart.
    he said there might be a love out there that no one can come between it..
    well let me tell u this, its definitely not leytons love.
    leyton is not epic. julian came in between and so did lindsay.
    but anyways BRUCAS FOR THE WIN!!

  157. Leytonarehot! Says:


    Wow Brucas is winning again :) Congrats Brucas fans, atleast Leyton and Naley are close behind :) Which means that the top three ships are from our fav show :) WOHOOO!!!!! HONEY?!!! Where are you my girl?

  158. Ella Says:


    My being a fan of LP does not make some of your statements any less rude.

    In that 1940s episode, Brooke Lucas and Peyton were never even in the same scene until the very end of that episode, so I’m not sure where you are getting the Brooke stepped out of the way for them comment from. In your earlier post you wrote Brooke was in love with Lucas and now you write she cared about him. Please make up your mind. They are not the same thing.

    Just because he said those words to here once doesn’t mean they are true forever as you seem to think, especially when those words are taken back. Clearly you have never been in love. Love does not mean jumping through hoops and ‘fighting’ for someone. It doesn’t always have to be difficult. Lucas asked Peyton to marry him. He wrote two books about her. He doesn’t need to fight for her because she was right there waiting.

    Yes, there is a difference between what one does and says. Despite what may have happened under the heavy influence of alcohol Lucas’s actions and his words have always said that he is in love with Peyton.

    You have ignored every point I made by asking me a ludicrous question. No I am obviously not Brooke, honey. She is not real. Brooke’s stance in season 5, and she said this herself that being the one between Lucas and Peyton was not a fun place to be and the sooner everyone realized it the better.

    When did Brooke ever say Lucas go to Peyton and then come back to me? I’d really like to know. I never doubted Brooke being a great friend and in regards to Brooke’s maybe feelings I see you did not read or understand my post at all.

    Maybe she did regret breaking up with him? So what? Those feelings don’t seem to have been reciprocated.

    In your response to my question about the whereabouts of Lucas, it is obvious that you did not read my post. First paragraph-(I am not trying to convince you that BL is over although in my own opinion they are and it is best that they are, because judging by Lucas’s dream about what he thinks his life with Brooke would be like, he doesn’t think too highly of a relationship with her.) Once again that is my response to your dream response. I dream about my high school boyfriend quite a bit too. That doesn’t mean I’m still in love with the guy seven years later.

    Once again, Lucas didn’t call Brooke. I don’t know what show you are watching, but it seems to be different from the rest of us.

    Julian and Lindsey didn’t come between LP because they were not together when those relationships happened. There was drama, but that didn’t keep LP from coming back together and now they are engaged. On the other hand Peyton got between Brooke and Lucas and they could not get past that. I don’t remember saying LP was epic, but I’d say they’ve got a fairer chance of making it against the odds than BL did or do.

    Honey, LP fans did not pop up out of the abyss. We have always been here just as BL fans have always been here and will continue to be here. I am not arguing against your right to ship a couple using faulty logic. Do what you want. I don’t actually care.

    It is quite obvious everything you said was not a fact. I am fully aware of that because I was the one that told you. If you still cannot differentiate a fact from your own interpretation of fact then I simply can’t help you. Or perhaps you aren’t old enough to understand the difference.

    Either way it is plain to see that you only hear what you like.
    I know that old adage “If you love someone set them free…” too, but sometimes you will learn in life that if you set them free they’re gone for good. Also the best isn’t always saved for last. You shouldn’t argue using cliche one-liners.

    And no honey, this is not Mark. I’m sure he got a headache and left 150 posts ago.

  159. Brucas4evah Says:


    Wauw, you guys have been giving AlwaysBRUCAS a hard time while I was asleep and there’s no need for that. Although she’s rude she made some points and I agree with almost everything she said. Since when is OTH a documentary? The combination of interpretations of the “facts” is what gives your mind a story and that’s why we see it different ways. Wonna hear a fact from OTH? What guys say and do are 2 different things and that’s not only in the show … *watches a picture of Mark

    My point is that you all make it sound that everything what AlwaysBRUCAS says is ridiculous but she made some great points which you try to neglect in every possible way cause you don’t like Brucas. Faulty reasons huh? Many are destined to reason wrongly; others, not to reason at all, and others to persecute those who reason (just a statement)

    ————————————————-
    I don’t give a shit about my grammar … Wonna beat me at spelling, try and learn 4 other languages first and then we’ll speak!

  160. Mrs. Peyton Scott (LPthecomet) It's got a little bit to do with fate, destiny, what's written in the stars Says:


    Guys, can’t we all just get along?
    Don’t argue with BL fans, let them believe what they want to believe!

    All that matters is that the top 3 ships are all OTH!
    Who cares about who’s first? Just be happy we’re not last!

  161. Brucas4evah Says:


    Exactly … I mean OTH is in the lead in several major end year polls.
    How cool is that! ;)

  162. LindcasFan Says:


    Ella… i love you! you have SUCH a great way of getting your point across without resorting to immature pettiness. that’s awesome.

    and alwaysbrucas, i could care less if Lindcas was in the stupid poll! lol that’s not going to stop me from liking them. i don’t think it’s any secret that Lindcas fans are the minority. that’s only because by the time Lindsey came along, most OTH fans had already picked a team. she however managed to win me over… so i’m now a Lindcas fan. there’s nothing wrong with that, and just because my couple isn’t on there doesn’t mean there’s something wrong with them. IT’S AN ONLINE POLL!!!!!!!!!! lol i mean seriously. there’s no need to get worked up over it.

    bottom line is you are the only one who has gone as far as to telling someone to go back to school… like really?? i will even say in LeytonTLA’s defense that your post was incredibly hard to follow… it was a rant about why Brucas isn’t over, when the majority of us can’t understand that concept anyway. so why would we understand all of your logic behind it (which is nothing more than your opinion by the way). and no… i’m not a Leyton fan. i’m saying this because it’s true, a lot of your reasoning just doesn’t add up to me. that doesn’t mean we’re dumb.

  163. Ella Says:


    Brucas4evah,

    :Wonna hear a fact from OTH? What guys say and do are 2 different things and that’s not only in the show:

    What? That is not a fact from OTH, nor is that a fact. Sometimes that is true, but a fact? No.

    I responded to everything Brucasalways said and if you do not see that, it seems like you’re the one who is ignoring what LP fans are saying.

    The reason everything Brucasalways says sounds ridiculous is because her points were not good at all. She got facts in some of the episodes wrong(as I have pointed out earlier), backtracked on earlier things she said(as I have pointed out earlier), and having your facts and opinions straight is kind of important for a logical argument.

    I’d really like to know what points you find so great. Or perhaps you will just write of a reasonable argument as some leyton fan ‘being mean,’ and not listening when it is you and brucasalways who are obviously not listening or reading.

    This is a forum, and people are going to argue about things. Brucasalways being given a ‘hard time’ is something she got herself into. She decided to argue in a forum that is full of LP fans. Just because she is one arguing against several people does not mean she is being bullied in anyway. If anything, she is being the bully.

    Honey, I didn’t say “shit” as you so eloquently put it, about your grammar. It is the internet. LOL and ur all you want. I don’t care how many languages YOU speak. I do just fine with my two. There is no need for a spelling bee because I am not a child. It’s a whole other story, however, when someone rudely tells another person that they should go back to english when their own writing looks like they they haven’t passed grammar school.

    Maybe it is the language barrier that is keeping me from being clear to you. It seems like English is not Brucasalways’ first language either. In understand the difficulties in translation. I am sure that has nothing whatsoever to do with saying something happened on a show when it absolutely did not.

  164. gina Says:


    these arguments are getting pathetic

  165. Brucas4evah Says:


    lol … Ella!? is that all addressed to me!? Okay … here are my answers

    1. I’m not ignoring what Lp is saying. If I don’t answer it means that I don’t wonna get involved or that I agree. Mostly I just disagree with LP because of different visions.

    2. I’m not gonna write a “reasonable argument as some leyton fan being mean or not listening” – That’s ridiculous!

    3. How am I not listening? Because I disagree with Lp or because I understand what AlwaysBrucas is saying?

    4 The statement was that Lindcas had more chance to get together than Brucas and AlwaysBrucas pointed out some things that could imply BL getting back together (if you don’t see it or don’t understand it I’m not saying that you’re not listening ). I agreed with AlwaysBrucas that BL had more chance than LL because M. Mandus was away from OTH and Lindcas got closure , it seemed for me to be done with that couple, Brucas on the other hand don’t have closure (explained in my next point) so I thought it made more sense

    5. This is a point that that you asked for where I’m agreeing with AlwaysBRUCAS’ comment .
    Just like her I don’t think that episode 408 can be seen as closure. If you’ve seen 505 and BL meeting-dinner-carriage -kiss-you won’t see me-he might be the only guy I lost it for-scene I believe Brooke definitely is still feeling something big for Lucas. I would agree with you that Mark brought BL back at the end of season 5 only for a cliffhanger if Lucas didn’t saw Brooke in his dream at the beginning of season 6, but he saw her and so all the things that happened at the end of season 5 ( Angie, purple monkey and other stuff) had a meaning for me. I saw Lucas’ interpretation of BL and for me what he thinks about her and who she really is now were not the same things so obviously he’s wrong about Brooke. I’ll admit that we have almost nothing to base BL relationship on in season 6, but that’s because of the lack of scenes. (I’ve read your answer to her post so don’t bother reposting)

    6. I have no idea what you’re trying to say to me with that grammar nonsense! It wasn’t addressed to you or anybody. It’s a way of saying that grammar of spelling doesn’t matter when you’re trying to express something. Why would you bring this up?

    7. English is not my first language, but trust me … I know what you’re saying

    8. You told to me once that you hated the arguing on CW forum because people started hurting each other. Why not to try and avoid it here as well cause I feel pretty much attacked right now and I don’t remember me bashing anyone here. I might be wrong. I do bash people, but not on OTHBlog as long as I remember (Show me where I attacked anyone to clear things up)

    9. AlwaysBRUCAS is a BL fan. I understand her. I’ll always think first as BL and only after that I’ll try to understand the other side. There’s nothing wrong with that and that’s why I’m supporting her. I get what she says.

    10. I’ll lol as much as I want, thanks for permission

    11. If I sound angry, I’m sry but I had fun writing this down

    12. You can always contact me here Brucas4evah@gmail.com if you got any questions or if I didn’t answer your question properly.

  166. Chloeeeeeeeeeee___x Says:


    I can just, state FACTS. Lucas & Peyton are together, about to get married and have a BABY on the way. So, for the love of god have your hope, but please take a note on the FACTS.

  167. Chloeeeeeeeeeee___x Says:


    *Can I

    [My bad, I was typing really fast. =S]

  168. Brucas4evah Says:


    Good fact! Got nothing to say about it. I just don’t think it will hapen. But it’s a fact what you’re saying

  169. AlwaysBRUCAS Says:


    thank you Brucas4evah!
    glad someone here understands where im coming from =] really appreciate that

  170. LeytonTLA Says:


    okay AlwaysBRUCAS, who on earth do you think you are telling me that i need to take an english class JUST because i didn’t think the things that you said made any sense? there were quite a few people that agreed with me. just because we don’t agree with what you said, that doesn’t mean that we need to go to school and take an english class. i didn’t mean that i literally didn’t comprehend the english of your post, i meant that none of it made sense to me, as far as those statements meaning that Brucas isn’t over… there’s a difference.

    the point is that NONE of those things you listed proves that Brucas will/could get back together. they were all things that represented their PAST relationship, or their relationship as FRIENDS. i’m sorry but there is no comparisson between FACTS that say Leyton will end up together… and FACTS that say Brucas will end up together, and i think you know that. Brooke giving Lucas a purple monkey does not mean that she still loves him, i’m sorry but that’s kind of a ridiculous statement and i think that is just wishful thinking on your part. i think it’s common sense that it was just a polite gesture, to say thank you to Lucas for helping out with Angie.

    and as LindcasFan said, the NY kiss was again, in NO WAY a romantic moment for Brucas… condsidering that they were talking about Lucas’ LOVE FOR PEYTON the whole time, and HOW LOST LUCAS WAS WITHOUT PEYTON lol. if the NY kiss is the best thing you can think of as far as romantic scenes for Brucas go… then that’s pretty sad

  171. LeytonTLA Says:


    and Ella, i agree with others that have said… you rock, and your points are all awesome and completely accurate! LP would be proud lol :)

  172. Jess Says:


    i’ll join in and give credit where credit is due… to both Ella AND LeytonTLA… you all definitely have your shit together when it comes to defending/supporting Leyton! great job girls, every single one of your alls points make perfect sense (and i’m not just saying that because i’m a Leyton fan, i think it’s clear whether you’re a Leyton fan or not, you have to admit that you all do a great job of supporting every one of your points with facts from the show)!

    and AlwaysBRUCAS, even though i and some other Leyton fans may not agree with what you have said, you also do a very good job of supporting your couple, i’m sure the BL fanbase appreciates your hard work in supporting/defending Brucas. both fanbases rock, and are clearly very dedicated to their couples. i think it’s safe to say that we are never going to agree on any of this, and the thing that matters is that we are ALL fans of OTH.. so can’t we all just agree to disagree about the ships, and just try to get along now? lol :D

  173. Hanna Says:


    I am just going to say this once! GET OVER IT!!! It is just a freaking show. Dude you girls need to chill and respect each other’s opinion. But fact is fact, whether Leyton is together or not, Brucas is still ahead. Get over it, it is just a poll and polls MEAN nothing!!

  174. AlwaysBRUCAS Says:


    lol LeytonTLA thats all your opinion, if you think thats a ridiculous statement lol okay
    and again i never said the purple monkey thing was a fact so GET OVER IT i was expressing
    my point of view and you expressed yours by saying that you think it was a polite gesture.
    anyways the other things were facts from season 5 and 6 obviously representing brucas’ relationship
    should i list it again
    - mention of the tattoo
    - how he had a dream where BROOKE was at first jealous of him and peyton (1940’s eppy)
    - the dream sequence which was totally off
    - NY kiss + “lucas scott might’ve been the one boy i would’ve lost it for”

    only a couple go back n read my other comments if u wanna know the rest =]

    and i never said that the NY kiss was romantic? who the heck said that lmao?
    but it obviously looked like it triggered some of brooke’s feelings towards lucas
    and THAT KISS WAS BROUGHT UP THIS SEASON!

    and thank you jess, really, you are very kind

  175. Ash Says:


    OMG! Does it ever end you guys. Everyday it’s the same crap. I don’t know how many ways you can say your point oe prove. After awhile it gets repetitive. We all heard it, we all said it. We all know, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH and BLAH, BLAH……….

    These fights that keep going on back and forth and back and forth and back and forth, is just ridiculous. Everyday, I feel like I’m going back in time to the day before. LOL! But MY GOD, it never ends.

  176. Angel Says:


    I totally agree with others that have said why even bother commenting back. I don’t see why LPers even bother responding back to each other. Just let them be. Let BLers go on and on. I frankly don’t give rats ass/crap about all OTH ships. But…

    If I was an LP fan I would just not respond at all. Take into the fact you guys have what matters the most LP are together/Happy starting a family and getting Married. Just remember that. They are on your screen and living.

    You guys are getting what matter the most and nothing is going to change that no polls, no bribing, no attack Mark at Charity Games, etc…. Nothing, all you did was be Patience and it’s paying off. So If I were you guys I would just ignore everything else and not respond.

  177. gina Says:


    loving it. chuck and blair are only behind leyton by 1 vote. oh and brucas are kicking ass

  178. Brucas4evah Says:


    THOSE ARE GUIDELINES – if you don’t agree with the poll you can always THEM why they made a mistake putting Brucas as an option, which is a stupid argument in my eyes
    http://www.portraitmagazine.net/guidelines.html

    NOT HAPPY with a SHIP we SELECTED? Below are the guidelines we follow when selecting who is featured.
    -This is a site for young people so the couple must be under the age of thirty.
    -We will not feature a ship for a cancelled show.
    -Both characters must still be on the show. If a character left the series they no longer qualify.
    -Both characters must be series regulars. We won’t include a ship if we know for a fact that one character is only appearing in a couple of episodes.
    -Due to fan ferver some of the ships included don’t currently have a romantic relationship but as these things can change unexpectedly they will still be included. The possibilities aren’t dead until the show (or one of the characters) is dead.

    … and I love their last point

  179. Anom Says:


    If you guys want to vote more then ones. Clear/delete your cookies or change your IP address, that’s how us BLers are getting it down to vote multiple times.

  180. kaait Says:


    MMKAY. so.
    Actually i think it would be disrespectful to all of us brucas fans if they weren’t an option considering we’ve held on this long & they wouldnt be in the poll if there wasn’t a chance. By the looks of things, brucas kicks ass. leytons boring. Get over it, they’ll soon come to an end. Soon the producers will realize that, like when the ratings start dropping. But if they’re tryna find a way to end the show, Leyton is a great way.

    BTW: If you really think nothing is going to go wrong with leyton, youve gotta think about it again. Mark wouldn’t of said in his interview that there still wasn’t a chance for brookeandlucas. Whether its because the show will lose loads of fans or not. And Lucas can’t get married! Like i said, only way that could happen is if they were ending the show.

    Sorry Im just a ssstrong believer in Brucas (:

  181. LindcasFan Says:


    Uhh do you know who the producer is?? Lol the one who you say will “realize that Leyton has to come to an end”… it’s Mark. Ya know… Mark… the same guy who “has known from the beginning that Leyton is meant to be together”. Those were his (the PRODUCER’S and CREATOR’S and WRITER’S) exact words. Call me crazy but… doesn’t really sound like he wants Leyton to go anywhere lol. He’s had a vision of what he’s wanted HIS show to be since the PILOT… the pilot was about Leyton… and it’s STILL about Leyton. They’re engaged and having a baby. I think we all need to come to terms with the fact that it’s about them now.

    We don’t have to like it, because trust me, I’m not a Leyton fan. However… the whole point of this season’s premiere was for Lucas to pick a girl FOR GOOD. And guess what guys… HE PICKED PEYTON! Mark wouldn’t go through the trouble of reunting Leyton AGAIN, just to split them up AGAIN. The whole “pick one” storyline this season was done for a reason, it’s because he’s finally PICKED ONE. They wouldn’t have made it that big of a deal if Lucas was just going to take off again with someone else. So yeah… he reunited Leyton, and now they’re starting a familly. Doubt they’re going anywhere anytime soon…

  182. AlwaysBRUCAS Says:


    “pick one” storyline was in the first episode of season 6 and isnt there a second part to that episode? im sorry but i dont think he’s actually picked yet. remember that guy said he made a great/good choice but he never said he made the right choice. i believe brooke is the queen of hearts, as do many other ppl…soo i dont think leyton is really endgame. mark said he had a vision of leyton from the pilot but things changed and brucas became bigger and u know maybe he changed his mind you never know. im not mark and neither are you. it would make all sense for brucas to be endgame. no sense at all if leyton was. i mean at this point i can see how leyton can be endgame but i really dont think he’d give away “endgame” so soon. besides, why would he say “anything can happen in tree hill” (while on the brucas/leyton topic) if brucas wasnt ever going to happen again. i have much reason to believe that brucas will be endgame. but lets just watch and enjoy the show for now =]

    btw totally agree kaait!

  183. LindcasFan Says:


    he said anything can happen because he HAS to throw you guys a bone somewhere! if he flat out says Brucas isn’t coming back then he loses half of his fanbase. he has no choice but to say stuff like that.

    and YES Lucas did say he made a good choice. when he was sitting in the airport he flat out said “i know i made the right choice”. how can you not remember that? and you can say that you think it makes sense for Brucas to be endgame (which i will never understand by the way), but to say it makes no sense for Leyton to be endgame is absolutely absurd. i personally hate Leyton but they have kept coming back to eachother SINCE THE FIRST EPISODE!!! i hate that couple soooo much, but even i can see that they’re soulmates. but… i’m not getting into that again lol.

    the “pick one” storyline has been done, and it was done for a reason. they wouldn’t do all that just to say forget it later on. there was a point to it. Lucas has to grow up and settle down sometime… and call me crazy but usually when you get married and have a kid, that’s settling down. which is what he’s doing with PEYTON. he had his chance to pick Brooke, or even Lindsey, and he didn’t. he picked ONE… and that one was Peyton.

  184. LindcasFan Says:


    and as far as giving away “endgame” so soon… how in the world is it soon? we’re in the 6th season now lol… the Lucas love mess has been dragged out for the entire series. that’s why they FINALLY had the “pick one” episode. everyone got tired of Lucas changing his mind all the damn time, and Mark knew that. i don’t think he would get BACK into that mess when the whole point of that episode was to get out of it.

  185. Jess Says:


    LindcasFan…. thank GOD there is ONE anti-Leyton fan out there that is able to hate Leyton, yet still be realistic! you hit every single point dead on! Mark wouldn’t have spent the whole 5th season building up to a Leyton reunion in season 6, JUST to split them up again. and Mark wouldn’t have had Lucas propose to Peyton TWICE, and write TWO books about his love for her, JUST to split them up again. i understand if Brucas fans are refusing to accept the facts… but come on, at some point you have to start using common sense lol

  186. LindcasFan Says:


    haha thanks Jess. that’s exactly the point i was trying to get across. NO ONE is more depressed about Leyton being together than me… trust me lol i’m definitely not a fan of them. BUT… reuniting them again took a lot of thought and planning on Mark’s part. he wouldn’t do all of that just to have them split up again. if he was going to have them end up with other people… then why would he even bother putting them back together this season?? he wouldn’t. plus… his first proposal to Peyton went wrong, they wouldn’t give the SAME couple TWO failed engagements. this time around they’re gonna do it right. i’m definitely not happy about it lol… but like you said… it’s just common sense at this point, no matter who you’re a fan of! it’s just obvious at this point that if Mark didn’t want Leyton to be together, he wouldn’t have brought them back together AGAIN. it’s for a reason.

  187. Jess Says:


    exactly :) i don’t know, i respect Brucas fans for still having faith or whatever, it would just be nice to actually hear some believable reasoning behind their opinions for once… intstead of just reading “i believe” or “i think” all the time. having belief is one thing, but i don’t know how anyone else is supposed to understand where they are coming from, if they can’t tell us any logical examples of WHY they think that way… or atleast give us examples that make sense

  188. LindcasFan Says:


    EXACTLY!!! that’s what annoys me about Brucas fans. it’s like they have EVERY right to love Brucas… that’s just a matter of personal preference. everyone can like who they like. but i personally feel that 9 times out of 10, when they try to back up something they’re saying, they’re not using ANYTHING that’s actually happening in the show now. it’s either ALL from the past high school years, which isn’t even relevant anymore. OR it’s just how THEY interpret something, which is not fact at all. that’s something that all the Leytoners have on the Brucas fans. there are CLEAR facts to back up Leyton’s fate, but there aren’t any for Brucas at all. like i seriously can’t think of one. so when one of their fans actually states some FACTS, and not just wishful thinking, then i’ll start to take them a little more seriously! saying “i believe” or “i think” or “i want” doesn’t prove anything.

  189. LeytonTLA Says:


    couldn’t agree more Jess and LindcasFan!

  190. Vivian Says:


    wow..seems like this site just loves ganging up on brucas fans lol

  191. Ella Says:


    Brucas4evah,

    I was simply responding to your post. I’m not sure what it is about my post that you couldn’t handle. Maybe it was the length.

    My grammar comment was originally directed at BrucasAlways who you were defending. Weird logic aside, her rude comments to LeytonTLA were my main qualm. If you were reading her comment then you had to have seen her telling LeytonTLA repeatedly that she was pretty much an idiot, when she is making mistakes about the show and screwing up her own grammar and spelling, etc. I had to assume you were extending my comments to her by mentioning you own writing skills. There is no other logical explanation for you to write such a comment in my opinion.

    I never cared for Linsdey and Lucas so I had no part of that argument. Although I do think Brooke and Lucas as a couple got closure. But there are indications that Brooke still has residual feelings. Those feelings however do not mean they as a coupl didn’t get closure. As far as Lucas is concerned they’re done. If anyone needed closure it was Brooke. Mostly I think she just needed more time to get over Luke and it is clear that she has done that as she is one of LP’s biggest cheerleaders now.

    I understand your need to protect a fellow BL fan. I do not understand how you agree with many of her points, but I have a different interpretation of what is going on on the show. I don’t agree with everything LP fans have to say.

    I just don’t understand anyone saying they don’t get LP. I can even understand them not seeing any chemistry or are too sappy as a reason for disliking them, but when people get into the show and try to explain why Lucas isn’t actually in love with Peyton it just seems like trying to light a fire with an empty match book. He has written two books about her, has come back “from the dead” for her, has professed his undying love for her to the world, and he is engaged to her.

    Say what you want about hoping BL will get back together, but denying there is no real love between LP is downright silly. But people see what they want to see and block out what they don’t. I’ve heard so many Brucas is going to be “endgame” cuz leyton sucks and are boring arguments that it is too ovbious that a normal conversation or adult argument is impossible.

    The words ‘endgame’ and ‘maverick’ are definitely two words I don’t ever want to hear or see again.

    I think I’m just going to stick to looking at spoilers from now on.

  192. Ella Says:


    Vivian there are simply more lp fans on this site than bl. No one is “ganging up” on anybody. The only inappropriate words I have seen have been from a BL fan so I think she can handle herself. She is handling herself like a five year old, but handling it none the less. I’m out.

  193. gina Says:


    riiight ella like you weren’t handling it like a five year old. if you thought u were more mature than her, you would have ended the argument a day ago and ignored it.

  194. AlwaysBRUCAS Says:


    lol Lindcas, AGAIN are you mark? how do you know hes throwing us a bone
    besides last i heard, mark isnt going to throw us anymore bones
    so im guessing everything he throws at us is clearly going to be hints
    of things that could happen right

    lol lucas doesnt know half of what he wants
    he thought marrying lindsay is what he wanted. he made that
    destiny shot saying brooke was the one and now for the first
    time he is saying that peyton is the one..it clearly could be any girl
    i think you are forgetting “the one” storyline when lucas
    was fighting for brooke…anyways if u cant remember that, then
    that really sucks u have bad memory

    lol again this show isnt over, so as long as it isnt, i wont
    believe leyton is endgame. its too soon especially after
    hearing that there might possibly be a season 7.

    jess, again he built up leyton and brucas in season 5 so it could have
    easily been either endin up in a reunion for season 6 and i
    personally am waiting for a brucas reunion..best is saved for last, always

    and he proposed to her twice, um how exactly? first time without showing
    the ring, which brooke seen and got to wear way before her. and the 2nd
    time was over the phone. like are you serious? desperate much on peytons behalf
    but whatever if u think thats so epic. and ur saying he wouldnt have brought
    leyton back together just to break them up again..well, why would
    he keep stirring brucas in the mix somehow? doesnt make sense does it?
    mark has a very creative mind and im sure he’ll give both fanbases something.
    i dont know how but i know he wouldnt ignore us

    ella, grow up.

  195. peytonOTHfan Says:


    I think Brooke and Peyton should get together.

    Or Julian and Lucas. There’s sexual tension right there!

    How about that for endgame? :)

    Just trying to lighten the mood, guys.

    Let’s just be happy OTH is coming back soon! It’s been too long.

  196. jeyton822 Says:


    ahahaahahahahah peytonOTHfan i love you hahahahaha

  197. Brucas4evah Says:


    hmm … Why do I have a feeling that everybody tries to tell us that there is no way that Brucas is ever going to get together? Do you really want us to stop watching the show that much !? :)

    —————————————

    peytonOTHfan , I seriously disagree ! Julian and Lucas for endgame? That’s ridiculous! Jowen on the other hand … mmm

  198. LeytonTLA Says:


    lol it doesn’t matter HOW Lucas proposed to Peyton… what matters is that he DID. and i’m pretty sure that if either of those “lame” proposals (as Brucas fans like to call them) had been to Brooke, you wouldn’t be criticizing them lol

  199. LindcasFan Says:


    okay AlwaysBRUCAS, you telling Ella to grow up is insane. anyone can tell by reading her posts that she is OBVIOUSLY older and more mature than 90% of you on here. her posts are very well thought out, and actually have a point to them instead of the usual “i love brucas woo hoo!” or “i love leyton!” comments. i think it’s really funny how everytime someone actually puts a Brucas fan in their place, you say they’re being immature, when in reality they’re just putting an end to this ridiculous Brucas argument, which someone needs to.

    and i’m sorry, but you really think Mark is STILL throwing Brucas “back into the mix”?? like are you serious?? BRUCAS HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT FRIENDS SINCE SEASON 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it’s like Ella just said, BROOKE is now LEYTON’S biggest cheerleader! even she has said THIS SEASON that it’s ALWAYS BEEN LUCAS AND PEYTON! she said “i’ve been the Lindsey between you two”… meaning that she was just another speedbump in the road that Lucas was using to hide behind. if BROOKE can see that Brucas is done, why can’t you all?? god like seriously you all make me wanna pull my hair out lol. it’s like we’ve all said, LIKING them is one thing, you all have your reasons. but to say they’re still romantically involved or a possibility is just flat out absurd.

    and i think you all are forgetting one of the most important quotes from his first book. HE SAID “and EVERY instinct to the contrary was simply a DENIAL of the following truth, that i was now and would ALWAYS be in love with Peyton Sawyer”… and i’m prrrrretty sure Brooke was an instinct to the contrary, right?? meaning that their relationship was just him being in denial, right?? it’s not that hard to follow…

    come on guys… you all know that i can’t stand Leyton, so stop making me stick up for them! but i really have no choice as long as you continue to get on here and ramble about this silly Brucas stuff, when there really is NO Brucas anymore. the difference between “the one” and the “pick one” episode is that the pick one storyline is happening NOW! not back in high school. do us all a favor and stop living in the past, it’s getting a little out of control. the sooner you all can catch up and see what’s happening THESE DAYS, the sooner we can start talking about stuff that’s actually relevant, and the sooner these ridiculous fights can stop.

  200. Ella Says:


    Thank you very much LindcasFan.
    If all AlwaysBRUCAS has to say to me is grow up then it is clear she has no response for what I had to say to her.

    Gina,
    It is possible to have an argument without throwing insults around or plugging your ears and yelling “La la la I can’t hear you.” I’ve done it. It’s okay to disagree.
    Maturity is a lot of things. It does not always mean walking away, however which is how you seem to define maturity. Yeah, sometimes it means walking away when its just about yourself or…television, but I was raised to believe it meant staying to fight when it meant sticking up for someone else. I stepped up because AlwaysBRUCAS was out of line with LeytonTLA. She was being rude and lashing out for no good reason. I don’t consider insecurity a reason for rudeness. Also, AlwaysBRUCAS got a few of her facts wrong about the show, so I was just clearing that up as well.

    If that makes me a five year old…well I’d like to meet the children you know, because it seems like they have more going for them maturity-wise than a few people on here.

    You may respond well, or you may not. Either way, no worries. I don’t like arguing with teenagers anyway and there is just way too much trouble in the world to stay here and try to be civil when someone on the other side refuses civility.

  201. Brucas4evah Says:


    THIS PLACE IS DOOMED
    wahahahahahahaha ha

  202. LindcasFan Says:


    ummm… doomed?? how do you figure?

  203. Brucas4evah Says:


    :) We just keep coming back to this place and fight cause we’re SOOO bored and are waiting for next episode.

  204. kirsty Says:


    I don’t ship BL so I didn’t freak out but the whole time I couldn’t stop rolling my eyes. Mark is seriously desperate to have the Brucas fans give up on them and jump ship. He’ll discredit the relationship in every way he possibly can. Sometimes I think he hates BL fans for not seeing his ‘vision’ and hence puts all sorts of crap in Brooke’s mouth, trying to slight them more than he already has, even though they continue to support the show and a couple, let me remind Marky-poo, that he created. The guy does have some nerve.

    Why can’t he just accept that Leyton will always come second to Brucas in the amount of fans on their ship?

  205. LindcasFan Says:


    yeah it’s definitely obvious that he’s trying to get Brucas fans to give up. but why would he do that if he was going to bring Brucas back??? he’s trying to belittle their relationship BECAUSE it’s not happening again, so he’s trying to turn people off from them. makes perfect sense.

  206. Joy Says:


    Hi Kirsty
    How do you figure Leyton is second place in amount of fans? Is that because of this dumb poll that has nothing to do with anything? A statement like that is just asking for another stupid argument.

    Just because there MAY be more BL fans doesn’t mean the creator and producers don’t hold the right to do with the show what they wish.

    Take, Bones, for instance. There is multitude of fans who want Booth and Brennan together, but Hart continues to put them with different people and dance around their obvious attraction and chemistry.

    My point is majority doesn’t always rule. And that is only assuming the are more BL fans then LP. Every fan isn’t online and there are a number of OTH fans who continue to watch the show for reasons other than romance.
    I agree that some BL fans may realize what most LP fans believe and that is that BL is over for good and they may jump ship, but there are still tons of others fans to take up the slack as well as BL fans that seem convinced BL will be back.

    I’m curious, what stuff Brooke has been saying that you disagree with.
    I can understand BL fans being mad about Lucas calling Peyton pretty girl, although I think for him it’s like calling the girl he’s dating honey or baby.

  207. Joy Says:


    Yikes, I just re-read my first paragraph and it may sound hostile. I don’t mean it that way at all.

    Geez, it sucks that it’s so bad on here that I’m paranoid, lol!

    Also, I don’t think Mark is disrespecting BL at all. The few scenes the two have had this past season and a half have been really cute. Like I said, the pretty girl comment can be seen as sort of screwed up, but I guess you have to blame CMM for that, lol.

  208. LindcasFan Says:


    no, Mark is definitely not disrespecting BL. disrespect would be having them stop talking all together. but instead he’s turned them into good friends… what else is he supposed to do? he doesn’t want them to be a couple, so he’s moved them onto the next best thing, a good friendship. definitely not disrespect! it’s just part of the whole triangle situation… at some point, one of the couples has to fade out of the picture, and Brucas was that couple. but at least he’s still keeping them around as friends. don’t be greedy Brucas fans!

  209. Joy Says:


    I just don’t understand why they would call their lack of interaction disrepectful. I don’t think that’s true, because there are so many new characters to keep track of now and BL aren’t a couple so they don’t NEED or even deserve anymore scenes than anyone else who is just friends on the show.

    What about Haley! I say she is being ‘disrespected’ and so is Naley!

  210. hannah Says:


    i completely agree with you kirsty!! lindcasfan and everyone else that had a problem with what you said will never understand where u are coming from because they are not fans of BL. mark is definitely disrespecting the brucas fans. and Joy if you don’t think BL has a bigger fan base you must be blind. it just isn’t this one poll. look all over the internet…and yes every fan doesn’t come on the internet but if the majority of internet fans are BL, you must assume it is like that off the internet as well

  211. Vivian Says:


    I know that Brucas will most likely never become a couple again..but i’m still keeping hope haha. But for me what really ticks me off is that if they can’t have a romantic relationship, make them good friends i bet many fans would settle for that. But i think where many Brucas fans are pissed at mark is the lack of screen time they get. I think they have had about 2 alone scenes together and all they’ve talked about was leyton. For an example after leyton got back together,lucas never noticed brooke had bruises on her face and there was never a conversation of both of them dicussing that. But during season 3 after brucas got back together lucas went off with peyton to help search for her mom (mark never ignored the leyton fans when brucas were together). I guess where i am getting at is that they both can have scenes together even if it’s not romantic ones and at the same time mark would be pleasing brucas fans with their new relationship as GOOD friends. (hope that makes sense lol)

  212. hannah Says:


    its disrespectful because brucas had this amazing friendship in season 5 and then they have barely any reaction in season 6…lucas doesn’t even know about the attack. so wrong. if mark had brucas in season 6 without any interaction, that wouldn’t be disrespecful..that would be pure evil

  213. Joy Says:


    SIGH, well first of all Hannah I am not blind. You can make your opinion known without saying anything about me, because you do not know me like that. THAT is disrespectful. I don’t make assumptions, because in my experience that just leave me looking like an idiot. Saying there are a lot of BL fans on the net so there are a lot of BL fans not on the net is like saying, there are a lot of black people in inner cities so you can assume most black people are poor, uneducted, and ghetto. That doesn’t make any sense.

    You also have to realize there are a lot more characters in these new seasons that Mark is focusing on compared to season 3. Mouth and Millie have scenes, Owen, Julian, Sam, and of course we need to make time for Jamie to dance.

    Mark seems to have a difficult time balancing all the characters this season. That’s it. Saying it is disrespectful is a bit overdramatic. This isn’t One Brucas Hill. Naley has barely gotten any good screen time together and they’re married with a fanbase that may even rival brucas. Why do they deserve more screentime than anyone else?

    I’m sure you would have liked to see Lucas’s reaction to Brooke’s attack, but it wasn’t shown because he just isn’t that person in her life anymore. We didn’t see every single close friend in her life’s reaction to her attack, but just because we didn’t see it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen you know? The dynamics have changed and you may not like it but that’s just how it is.

    Naley and Haley fans aren’t complaining nearly as much.

  214. Hanna Says:


    I don’t mind Brucas being on the polls!! But they aren’t a couple!!! Naley and Leyton should be way ahead of Brucas, simply because they ARE true love and ARE the real couples on One Tree Hill!!! I have never been a fan of Brooke, I just don’t get the hype around that girl!! This is just my opinion, but Brucas sucked together!!!

  215. Brucas4evah Says:


    wow reading Hanna’s and hannah’s comments really confused me for a moment.

    I really don’t wont to argue, but I’m still gonna say this: I hate everyone being LP cheerleader this and last season and I hate that Brucas had only somewhere 4 scenes together and I hate Haley having crappy story line and I hate Mark giving to much attention to secondary characters

    those are my most hated things this season

  216. LindcasFan Says:


    i agree. Brucas totally sucked together. they were all about sex. there was never anything meaningful there and even if there was… it was all lies because Lucas said himself that it was just him being in denial of his love for Peyton. i don’t see how anyone could get into that couple. it’s just gross lol. BUT… whatever floats your boat i guess.

    and whoever said this isn’t “One Brucas Hill”… congrats. you hit the nail on the head. for some reason Brucas fans act like this show should revolve around them, when there couple doesn’t even exist anymore! how that makes sense i’m not really sure. if there’s no Brucas, then how can the show give you a lot of Brucas screentime?? the focus now is on Leyton, and should be because THEY are together now. if there’s a REASON to have a Brooke/Lucas scene, then i’m sure Mark will make that happen. but having Brucas scenes just for the sake of having them doesn’t make any sense, that would be a WASTE of screentime.

    and i’m sorry but i really don’t think Mark even cares about Brucas screentime anymore. i doubt he wakes up in the morning and thinks “hmmm… what should i do with Brucas today”… most people out there don’t fixate on things that happened 5 years ago. just because you Brucas fans are still hung up over them doesn’t mean you should expect Mark to be. like i said, normal people don’t like to live in the past, so you can’t blame him for being normal. he’s obviously over it and ready to make it about Leyton now.

  217. Brucas4evah Says:


    Brooke is being beaten up and Lucas doesn’t even checks up on her. ISN’T THAT A FREAKING REASON!? … Ow but I guess friends don’t do that

  218. LindcasFan Says:


    Brooke was going around telling everyone that it wasn’t a big deal! and when it was at the SAME time that Leyton just got back together and weren’t even in town, yeah i think Lucas had some other stuff going on lol. if Brooke is going to lie to everyone and make it out to be nothing, then she can’t expect people to bend over backwards trying to help or figure out what’s going on.

  219. gina Says:


    ok brooke must have some pretty stupid friends then. who would honestly believe those bruises were from falling down the stairs. peyton and lucas should have known better, but they obviously cared too much about themselves to think anything was wrong. at least hayley and nathan tried talking to her about it because they knew something was up. mark needs to stop making peyton and lucas so ignorant and selfish. its painful to watch.

  220. gina Says:


    and lindcasfan…are you bipolar or something? i remember you defending brucas fans at one point and being against leyton? hmmmm

  221. LeytonTLA Says:


    if Brooke actually wanted to be honest, and tell people the REAL reason that she had bruises on her face, then i’m sure Lucas would have been there for her. but she didn’t. she decided to lie to everyone, and tell them that she fell down the stairs. there’s only so much help you can give/offer a person if they just “fell down the stairs”. Brooke pushed everyone away and didn’t let anyone in until she had to. and whether her story about falling down the stairs was believable or not, you can’t help someone that doesn’t want to be helped.

    and by the time that Brooke WAS honest about the attack, it had been over and done with already… so it wasn’t a big deal anymore for Lucas to be there for her, because it had happened a while ago and she had already moved on from it

  222. LindcasFan Says:


    gina… it’s like i just said in one of my earlier posts… YOU guys are MAKING me defend Leyton!! and i can’t stand that because i HATE Leyton. but i’m sorry when a lot of the Brucas fans get on here and start making ridiculous assumptions and saying things like “of course Brucas will end up together”, i have to take Leyton’s side. i do defend your right to still have hope, because deep down i secretly have hope for Lindcas. but there’s a difference between hope and denial, and i think a lot of Brucas fans are in DEEP denial about where Brucas is as a couple right now. so yeah, when it starts getting ridiculous and over the top, i’ve gotta take Leyton’s side, as much as i don’t want to.

  223. Honey Says:


    Okay, anyone with common sense would know that something was going on with brooke. she all of a sudden became distant, bruises ALL over her body. i know some leyton fans hate admitting that leyton are selfish but the truth is they are. if mark wants us to believe that brucas are just friends now, he should of placed lucas in brooke’s problems. now 2 random guys care more about her than her best friends.

  224. LeytonTLA Says:


    okay seriously gina, you’re calling Peyton selfish as far as the whole attack thing goes??? that’s funny, because when I watched the episodes, Peyton was there for Brooke as SOON as she got home from Vegas/LA, and saw the bruises all over her. even when she thought that Brooke just fell down the stairs, she still spent a whole night with Brooke comforting her. AND after Brooke was honest with her about the attack, Peyton comforted her and was there to help her yet AGAIN, by telling her that she wished Brooke would have been honest with her, and that she is ALWAYS going to be there for her. i’m sorry but i don’t quite see how that makes Peyton selfish…

  225. Brucas4evah Says:


    I am sry we’re with more Brucas fans than usual. 4 is way to much on this site

    I still can believe you said Brucas was all about sex and never meaningful. So lame!

  226. LeytonTLA Says:


    and again… no, Brooke’s story about falling down the stairs wasn’t very believable, and her friends probably should have been able to see past that story. but even if they knew that something else was going on, Brooke CLEARLY didn’t want to be helped because she made up that lame story to hide what was really going on… and you can’t help someone that isn’t willing to be helped… Brooke’s words. it’s no one’s fault but her own that she didn’t want to let anyone in and be honest

  227. LindcasFan Says:


    uhhh i said that because they WERE all about sex lol. i’ve thought that since day one. look at the first time they talked… BROOKE WAS NAKED IN HIS BACK SEAT for crying out loud!! so romantic… lol. there definitely was not anything significant there… like i said, Lucas said so himself when he wrote that every instinct to the contrary was just a denial of his love for Peyton. his words, not mine.

  228. gina Says:


    blah blah blah. lucas says bullshit stuff like that all the time. ya he proposed to peyton twice, said brooke was the one for him, said “i do” to lindsey. his feelings for the women he loves are inconsistent and all over the place. nobody should say anybody is endgame. its just annoying

  229. Joy Says:


    I agree that at the very least Peyton-her best friend could have been a bit more insistent, but she did sense something going on with Brooke when she was moving out of their house and moving in with Luke.

    But I agree completely with LeytonTLA. Maybe falling down the stairs sounded like a dumb excuse for us because we knew what happened. But I know from experience that you can’t force someone into telling you the truth. How else were they supposed to know she lied about it? They aren’t experts in bruise patterns.
    And although it seems like it makes them bad friends, it’s hard not to get caught up and excited when something as huge as your marriage is pending.

  230. LeytonTLA Says:


    “we go days without having meaningful conversation”… Brooke’s words. Brooke was always threatened by the deep emotional connection that Lucas had with Peyton, because she knew that she never had that with him

  231. LindcasFan Says:


    i agree no one should say anyone is endgame… that’s why i feel the need to defend Leyton when Brucas fans get on here and parade around saying “Brucas is endgame!!” “of course it’ll be Brucas in the end!”… like really?? i don’t think they have any idea how dumb that sounds, considering their couple has not been together since season 3. at that point even I, someone who HATES Leyton, have to jump on their side because what they’re saying is just so ignorant and flat out crazy.

  232. Joy Says:


    Honey, to look at her one cannot not deduce that she was robbed and mugged. And even if they did think something was wrong, which Peyton did realize, then what would you expect them to do? Move into her house? Camp out on the front lawn? Pop up every second of the day, as though they have nothing important going on in their own lives? Come on!

    I find this real friends would notice line of thought funny considering LP fans have said the same thing about season 1 Brooke persuing Lucas when it was plain to see she had a thing for Lucas. Yet BL fans defend her. Is she any less “selfish” than you guys think LP are being?

    It is SO silly that you are adding selfish to your list of reasons to hate LP because they are not psychic.

  233. gina Says:


    BLers should watch this. makes perfect sense. i wonder if mark watched it, he would realize it too…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p_If-6774o&feature=related

  234. Brucas4evah Says:


    Quote Lindcasfan
    ” that’s why i feel the need to defend Leyton when Brucas fans get on here and parade around saying “Brucas is endgame!!” “of course it’ll be Brucas in the end!””

    when did ANY Brucas fan say HERE that Brucas is endgame. Noone did that! At least I don’t remember and I’ve been following this from the beginning.

    BLfans said that NOONE is SURE that someone is ENDGAME.

    now show me whosaid here that “Brucas is endgame!!” and I’ll take all my words back

  235. Ash Says:


    Wow! Seriously sometimes I wonder how old you guys are. Because this is just not serious. Y’all need to get some reality check because last time I remember this is just a SHOW! Everyday is the same thing with some of you not all of you guys but some of you, I would have thought the new year would be different. It’s still the same. Wow! Just all fans from LP/NH/BL/LL LET IT GO! just let it be.

  236. LindcasFan Says:


    okay Brucas4evah… here ya go… Brucas said…

    “why would they be in the poll if they arent going to happen again? of course they are going to happen again”

    that right there is what i’m talking about. that sounds SOOOO ignorant considering the fact that we have not seen Brucas romantically in 3 seasons!!!!!! it just sounds dumb and that’s the kind of stuff that makes me wanna get on here and just tell you guys to wake up lol

  237. LindcasFan Says:


    and its not even JUST them saying that Brucas is endgame… it’s the fact that they take things like this stupid poll and make it sound like it actually means something. NEWS FLASH… Mark didn’t make this stupid poll! this poll has NOTHING to do with what’s happening in the show! so why on earth would Brucas fans act like it means that Brucas will get back together. that’s just flat out stupid. they take the SMALLEST things and act like Lucas just proposed or something. it’s really annoying.

  238. Brucas4evah Says:


    and I DO take my words back and APOLOGIZE

  239. LeytonTLA Says:


    Ash… we all know that the infamous L/B/P love triangle is a HUGE part of one tree hill. for a lot of people, that’s one of the main reasons that they even watch the show. so as long as one tree hill is still on, ofcourse people are going to continue to talk about it. i’m sorry but it’s just inevitable lol

  240. Joy Says:


    LOL, LindcasFan. It’s true.

    Also bravo Brucas4evah for being mature enough to apologize. You seem to be the only mature BL fan on here….

  241. LindcasFan Says:


    yes, thank you for the apology. i don’t think i’ve ever heard one of those come from a Brucas fan on here lol

  242. hannah Says:


    Mark gets brain farts because he’s trying too hard to cater to Leyton

  243. Honey Says:


    Well, if u got attacked would u want some one to be there for u, at least stay for a while instead of moving in witb lucas. would u seriously want a friend who does not care. i really hate when people use “they have not been together since season 3.” that really does not mean anything. Keith and Karen werent together for 17 years and they got engaged. people can separate and fall back in love with each other, it happens all the time. i know it happened to me.

    I love brucas……but it is very unlikely they will be together. but if they do that will be awesome.

    Damn i missed u all. i havent been on for the longest time.

    I have bad news. i cant watch OTH tomorrow night, i have work from 3-11. tears are rolling down my face. i cant be here to chat:(

  244. Brucas4evah Says:


    Let hope it wont be come a habbit :)

  245. Joy Says:


    You’d get your algebra homework done much faster if Mark hadn’t brain farted this show you love enough to talk about on the internet into existance.
    I think it’s funny that you equate no brucas into leyton catering.
    Plus it’s no secret as they were his pick from the beginning. I’m sure it sucks for you that the creator of the show is an LP fan. Hey at least he gave you guys seasons 2 and some of 3. That’s more than most LP fans would give you. ;-)

  246. LeytonTLA Says:


    Honey, i wouldn’t expect my friend to put off moving in with her fiance if i wasn’t even willing to be honest with her about being attacked.

    and i feel your pain… i’m working tomorrow night too, i’m SO upset that i’m going to miss it… thank god for DVR lol

  247. Joy Says:


    Honey, how is Peyton supposed to know that Brooke needs her if Brooke is insisting she go, and insiting she is okay is my point. Don’t you remember that part?

    Peyton leavng when Brooke insists she is fine doesn’t make her a bad friend. She was worried about leaving Brooke as she and Lucas packed up the last of her stuff. Don’t you remember that?

    I doubt OTH will be on long enough for BL to get back together. In real life, if these people were real maybe BL would get back together, hell maybe both Peyton and Brooke would come to their senses and marry Owen and Julian respectively.
    In televisionland, the way the show has been set up, it seems unlikely that BL will happen again.

  248. LindcasFan Says:


    yeah but Honey, when i say they haven’t been together since season 3, there’s a difference between Brucas and Karen/Keith… since then Lucas has picked ONE girl to be with out of Peyton, Brooke, and Lindsey… and he picked Peyton. so yeah it hurts their chances that they haven’t been romantically involved in so long, but him having the chance to pick Brooke, and then picking Peyton instead, just puts the icing on the cake. when Karen and Keith got the chance to be together, they took it. but in the premiere this season, Lucas had his chance to go back to Brooke, and he passed it up. so yeah, i’d say they’re done..

  249. Vivian Says:


    In my opinion i think when the actual wedding happens oth will most likely be done. Because fan bases that ship the other couple would probbly quit watching. So if i was mark i would have the wedding episode the last one lol what do you guys think?

  250. LeytonTLA Says:


    if people actually stopped watching the show JUST because Lucas married the girl that they didn’t want him to marry… then that’s just sad lol. if you’re a true fan of OTH, then i would hope you would decide to keep watching, because there IS more to the show than just the triangle lol. i feel like the show is coming to an end anyway, which is why Mark is finally having Lucas settle down, and having Naley and Brooke’s dreams slowly start to come true too (as far as Nathan playing professional basketball, and Brooke finally being a mother).

  251. Leytonarehot! Says:


    Hey Honey. How are you girl? I have missed you :) I loved Brucas and I love Leyton now!! Get over this ridiculous fighting. Both girls are beautiful and they both captured the heart of Lucas, the point is, is that Lucas was always inlove with Peyton, always!!! You Brucas fans are amazing to have so much faith in your couple, I don’t know if I would be the same if Leyton were not together :)

  252. Honey Says:


    LeytonTLA i am soryy that u cant watch it, it really sucks. i work in a hospital and in our break room we have a tv. so i might pop my head in from time to time.

    Joy, peyton and lucas know brooke, they know that when she pushes people away, there is something deeper. just like naley knew.

    And lindcus, keith and karen had plenty chances to get together but they avoided it.but whatever that is a different couple. but u can compare them to either leyton or brucas. And its good to have u back!!!

    Totally agree Vivian, if there is a leyton wedding, i bet it will be at the end of season 6 (if season 6 is the last season)

  253. Hanna Says:


    The fighting is pointless! Leyton are together abd Brucas is not. Get over it!! The whole Team Brucas and Team Leyton has been over for two years. Time to move on Brucas fans!!

  254. Mel Says:


    Honey!!! Hey girl, it’s LAH, I changed my name :)

  255. Honey Says:


    Hey Mel, now!!! what made u change ur name?!? i was thinking about changing my name. how u been girl?!? i have been really busy with work and everything. i have not been on this site for a long time. how is winter break treating u, how was ur holidays? it is freezing here in boston. the other day it was like 5 degrees. r u watching OTH tomorrow? i am so jealous;(

  256. Joy Says:


    Honey,
    Then would you agree that Brooke should not have gone after Lucas in season one? BL fans think BL was fair game in season one and that Peyton should have said something and Brooke isn’t a mind reader. Knowing Peyton as a best friend should, it was clear what was bothering Peyton. It’s the same situation.

    I’m not trying to argue with you. I swear! lol! I’m just trying to make a point. :-)

    I undertsand that part of your point, that LP should have noticed, and again I have said this twice before, that Peyton DID notice, but that doesn’t mean she could have helped Brooke when she didn’t want to be helped.

  257. Honey Says:


    I have been getting my sister caught up on OTH, and she asked me that same question, like yesterday….pretty funny. i honestly did not have an answer for her. brooke kept asking peyton if it was okay, and she said it was fine and to trust her. i think brooke knew deep down that peyton was lying but that brooke was young and selfish. not the brooke we know now. i honestly just think that peyton should of been there for her, like brooke was when derek attacked her. i know she was not there in the first attack, but that was because brooke was heart broken and anger at peyton.

  258. Joy Says:


    Lol, weird coincidence.
    Well, my reply to that is the only reason Brooke was there during the second attack with Derek was because she was attacked herself. They were leaning on eachother in that instance, they were both traumatized, so I don’t think the situations are the same.

    I guess what I want to know is what you think Peyton should have done, what constitutes being there for someone who insists they are fine and asks you to move out and even takes the key to the house you shared from you?

    I think knowing Brooke as she does, she knew that Brooke would come to her in her own time. The best she could do, any of us can do in a situation like that, is make sure that person knows we are there when they are ready to talk and Peyton did that and was there when Brooke came clean.

  259. Mel Says:


    Melissa is my real name and I got sick of trying to explain to everyone, that just because I love Leyton doesn’t mean I didn’t love Brucas :) I am totally watching OTH and my holidays were fine. I had so much on Christmas and the weather has been like normal Californian weather, BORING!!!!! Anyway how have you been girl?

  260. Honey Says:


    Joy, I think that at least she could of stayed with her a little longer, she didnt seem like she truly cared about her….lucas was her first priority…. but what ever, there is nothing we can do about it.

    Mel, i can see why u change ur name, it awesome that u favor both couples, i know u love leyton more though. i have been really busy and tired. i just lost my voice. glad u had a good holiday!!

  261. Chels Says:


    I think its kinda obvious every couple on this poll is cheating lol so I really wouldn’t take it that seriously. I mean theres no way that almost a week into this poll that the couples would be going up like 100 every hour. Its crazy and inaccurate. Althought i don’t really think its a big deal i’ve never seen a poll thats 100% accurate on the internet because theres always and i mean ALWAYS a way people can hack into it or vote mutiple times.

    Polls are supposed to be fun but for this fanbase it seems its all about who has the biggest fanbase. Its kinda funny that BLs are the only ones who actually take any stalk into the polls because i’ve never seen a NHer or LPer say because of a poll they are the biggest fanbase. I’ve seen several polls over the internet were both NH and LP beat BL by a long shot yet nobodys going around saying “look at this poll because were obviously the biggest fanbase!”

  262. LindcasFan Says:


    yeah that’s kinda why Brucas fans annoy me sometimes. they seem to be the most outspoken, and usually it’s for stupid reasons like these polls, when really that stuff means nothing. no need to go plastering the results everywhere like they actually make a difference lol.

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