7.09 Now You Lift Your Eyes to the Sun Reaction
Posted on November 9th, 2009 by Amy
OK, it’s really, really hard for me to do a review tonight. I was so busy scouting the screen for myself from where I extra-ed that it was difficult to really get into the story. I can say I wasn’t absolutely wow-ed by it. But I’ve seen worse too.
Here’s what I know I liked:
- Dan. Wow, did I miss Dan and it was so good to have him on screen again. His scenes, especially with Jamie were real and rich and felt very One Tree Hill-ish. I’m so glad he’s decided to stay. Also good to see Nathan and Dan at it again. Even though I feel like it’s a continual thing…Dan wanting redemption from his son.
- Alex and Julian. I like them together. I like that Alex finally broke down. I like her and Julian’s interaction and how he treats her. I just, I don’t know, I wasn’t on Brooke’s side. She of all people should understand helping a friend on drugs out.
- Nathan and Haley were sweet together. I love how he kissed her on her forehead. And darnit, we almost got an encore.
- Mouth’s concern for Millie. At least he seemed sincere.
- Haley’s song. Love it!
- Grubbs! Great job, Mike!
Here’s what I didn’t like:
- Brooke. Oh my word. She worries because she’s pregnant and then she cries because she’s not pregnant? That whole ‘the girl that gets the guy and the baby’ line was driving me crazy! She’s not Haley and she’s not Peyton! She should be happy she’s not pregnant and she has a chance to be a bride and THEN a mother. ESPECIALLY since she’s not even sure that Julian is in this for the long haul. Ugh. Did not feel bad for Brooke AT ALL. And now what? Is she going to try to get pregnant behind Julian’s back? And let’s not forget to mention her slapping Rachel. Come on, Brooke. Your friend is clean from being a druggie, tries to make amends and you’re gonna slap her?
- Millie. Don’t like how she acted. Felt very fake. And the coke thing surprised me. Seemed like a little much after two weeks of diet pills but what do I know?
- Quinn. You know, I would have liked the scenes with Quinn and Clay had they done this the right way. But tonight she wasn’t even the same person she’s been up to this point. It’s like magic she’s someone that’s giddy. Why couldn’t she be like that from episode 2? It’s almost as if the writers saw the audience reaction to her and then started rewriting her character. As always though, I enjoy Clay and still feel like he’s a great addition and very authentic character.
- Miranda scenes seemed very awkward and out of nowhere.
I still am having a hard time judging the episode as a whole. What did you think? Do I need to watch it a few more times or do you agree?
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November 9th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
i agree with you on dan. i dont care what he does i love him, and him and jamie….awwww. they are best friends.
i also agree with on quinn. i dont care if she cures cancer, i still dont like her. now she is making me start to dislike clay, i liked him up until this point.
i feel like clay is not doing his job and is so busy trying to get into quinn’s panties. which wouldnt be a hard thing to do, she would spread her legs faster than you can say hoochie.
i felt bad for brooke, i also didnt like julian and how he treated her. i thought that he should care more about the woman he supposed to love vs. a woman he works with. and dont shoot me, but i could totally go for julian and alex.
brooke needs someone else…..clay maybe?
November 9th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Def agree on Dan comments…it’s nice to have him back. The scenes with Jamie were adorable….not really liking the whole Julian/brooke/alex storyline… I like clay and Quinn but something else needs to happen there to spice things up.
And I wish Haley would have sang more! It’s nice to have her music back in the show tho:)
November 9th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
I have to agree on most points. Although, I buy the Millie descent more than you. I’ve seen people get sucked into that world, and it doesn’t take long.
I really really liked Alex this evening… and not because she’s ‘perfect,’ in fact, she’s far from it–but it was done very well.
That being said, I think I disliked Brooke more tonight then I have ever since the very beginning of the series–actually probably more. First of all, the baby and the boy thing was completely annoying. Is that all these girls want? It’s really starting to wear on me. Also, she goes to the doctor without telling Julian–who she already thinks won’t be on board for baby–and then is super sad she isn’t pregnant???? She SHOULD be relieved. Considering I am the age she is supposed to be (25), even if you are in love and in a relationship, unplanned pregnancies are usually not something to strive for. Had it been something both her and Julian discussed and wanted, I wouldn’t have a problem with it. And her throwing her birth control away, if they have her ‘trick’ Julian into a pregnancy, that to me is unforgivable… and since when has Brooke become so desperate???? One of the reasons I didn’t LOVE her and Lucas was her constant insecurities–and look what we have again?
With me being impressed with Alex tonight, in combination with me being at the very least unimpressed with Brooke, I found myself being very intrigued with the Alex and Julian relationship… and maybe even want more—dare I say it.
Quinn was likable this episode. Clay is classic. Kudos to Rachel for apologizing to Brooke and paying her back, but not the best way to apologize by saying I’m sorry but you should be too. That being said, it was very un-Brooke like to just brush it off–didn’t her and Rachel used to be best friends? And didn’t they used to do some pretty questionable things together? AND Brooke KNOWS that Victoria ran Rachel off too–she should be a little more considerate. And the slapping was totally unnecessary, and they are getting a little ridiculous with the slapping. LOVED the Brooke to Peyton slap via S3, Loved the Haley to Rachel backhand via S4, and loved the Haley to Renee slap a few episodes ago, but this one? NO.
I think I’m done with my rant.
I did enjoy the episode. Just not Brooke, and her neediness came to a head for me tonight… ugh
November 9th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
i would really like to hear what your experience extra-ing was like amy
November 9th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Not a horrible episode but not my favorite.
Defintely wanted some more Naley in there, I mean we almost got the encore. Also I really wanted a Haley and Rachel scene. We all know that Haley hates Rachel so it would have been funny if Haley had come home to find Rachel in her house making small talk with her son…or if Rachel cracked a mother-in-law joke. They really need to capitalize on that.
Dan and Rachel were good in this episode. My favorite line in the whole ep was when Rachel said I remember when you were a rumor in 3rd period or something like that…funny!!
I do feel bad for Brooke. Julian is spending more and more time with Alex when he needs to be comforting Brooke. And I think Brooke threw away the her birth control because she found out she can’t have kids..so she won’t need them. I know he didn’t find that out, but I have a feeling there was more to her doctor’s visit than what we saw.
Whoa there Millie, you are on a crash course headed to rehab. I bet she accidentally overdoses and that is maybe what WWK was referring to in regards to the suicide attempt. Just a theory though. Poor Mouth, he is probably so worried about her. Shape up Millie, you are better than this!
Quin/Clay…eh no thanks. But seriously Clay, your screwing with Nathan’s career that he has worked so hard for, and now I think I might start to hate you…fix it! Haha that sounded harsh but seriously come on…some agent you are.
Excited bout next episode!!
November 9th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
I agree with the dan and jamie scenes. They were long overdue. That being said I’m not sure I agree with the brooke thing. She has wanted a baby since season five, she wants to have a family and she finally has this wonderful guy and he can’t focus on her. He has to save alex, its not really fair. She deserves to get her happy ending just like the other girls did. Clay is awesome. I love his character, but I’m upset that he hasn’t worked harder for Nate. That really frustrates me.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
I think I am in disagreement with a lot about this, I absolutely hated what they are doing to Brooke with the Julian/Alex situation. I am beyond tired of her getting the short end of the stick on everything since season 3. For me as a Brooke fan I am so sick of her never getting the guy or the baby. When it has been clear for a few seasons that she wants a family and seeing how they gave those things to Nathan/Haley and Lucas/Peyton it really should be Brooke’s turn. I need Julian to end his relationship with Alex.
I wanted more Naley I am so sick of Quinn/Clay getting their screen time. There has been such a distance in Naley scenes in the last few episodes. I am beyond sick of them shoving Quinn and Clay down our throats. Or having them not focus on Naley and give that to Quinn/Clay.
I want old Millie back, no this cracked out wannabe that she has turned into modeled after Alex.
Hopefully this Alex mess will be coming to a close soon and next week looks fairly interesting.
Kelly
November 9th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Ugh, I’m officially over Alex. She’s just as annoying as Quinn. I’ve also had it with Julian and Brooke. I don’t think there is a single thing I like about this show anymore.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
I agree with you Maggie about Clay. I hate how he just messed with Nathan’s career. Take the friggen deal. Yes, it sucks but seriously, they can always re-do the contract at the end of the year (at least.. can’t they? I thought they could in hockey. lol. correct me if I’m wrong) I must say.. thank you Dan in the next episode. I really hope he’s “choking” Clay cause of his screw up.
Haha, I liked the grandma Rachel comment from Jamie, but that was a good line too!
I actually like Millie like that.. like I love to hate her sort of thing. But I really hope she gets out of it and realizes she doesn’t need to be like that.
Brooke, Brooke Brooke.. god. I felt sorry for her then I was annoyed with her. I was thinking the same thing as you Maggie, that she threw them away because of that.
I actually liked Miranda.. ahaha. She’s hilarious. But yeah, totally out of no where. It works better then when we had some Chase&Mia scenes.. by the way, what happened to them? We get one episode with a couple of scnes of them and now they disappeared again!
Loved Dan and Rachel, as always. And Naley. Loved Haley’s song.. and the almost encore.. I was getting excited but I knew it was something about drafting him on TV. Grr..
November 9th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
kellyz, you took the words right out of my mouth about naley. im sick of not having any naley scenes, and im tired of them shoving the wanna-be couple down our throats.
i love brooke and julian, but hate brulian.
brooke needs a new man, and i actually liked alex and julian tonight.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
i really like the millie storyline too. i also thought alex (jana) did a really good job in this episode. she’s a good crier.alex is my fav of all the new chaarcters.
i feel nothing for quinn/clay. i couldn’t care less about that storyline. it’s actually painful to watch. i sound like a broken record because i say it every week but shantel is a terrible, terrible actress. i get embarassed for her. when she has scenes i’m always covering my face and waiting for the torture to be over.
also, i’m really hoping nathan can be happy. i feel like he hasn’t smiled or had fun once this season except for the flashback. he’s like in full zombie mode. remember in season 1 when nathan was cocky and actually had a personality? now he really is becoming a pod person like brooke said in season 2. something needs to change with poor nathan.
also, james lafferty wears the shit out of a pair of jeans. him on the basketball court…yummmmmmm
November 9th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
I think the whole point was that the Dr DID tell Brooke that she can’t have kids and THAT’S why she threw away the birth control pills. And that’s why she was in such a terrible, sad mood. She just didn’t tell Haley because she keeps things private. I highly doubt she’s going to try to get pregnant w/Julian now that she’s about ready to kick him out.
And even though WE know Alex was in trouble, Alex was the one who started the whole feud with Brooke – calling her old, fat, and then trying to seduce her boyfriend, and all the while Brooke’s paying her half a million dollars.
So while I can understand that Julian’s stuck in the middle, it’s not really Brooke’s fault either. Maybe she had planned to tell him her news and all he does it run to Alex, who he’s apparently been spending every night with. Most people wouldn’t put up with that. And Rachel, well, she wasn’t even really sorry. Anyone could see that.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
I hope there is something more to Brooke throwing away her birth control pills, because with the way things are going between her and Julian, there is no way she should be trying to get pregnant at this point.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
I have to disagree with those who think it’s unrealistic for Brooke to respond the way she did. I don’t think it’s a sign of weakness to desire what most people want in life. She doesn’t have to be “Haley” or “Peyton” to want to find love and have a family. She’s in her mid twenties and successful in the business world. I don’t find it shocking to want the same satisfaction in her personal life. Julian is a dick. If he’s going to be insensitive, knowing her past and all the crap she’s had to endure in relationships, let Alex have him. I wouldn’t mind a Brooke and Mouth relationship. He’s been in love with her forever and he’s been right in front of her this whole time. I believe he’s the one person who would give her whatever she needs. Maybe she’ll realize he’s been one of the only constants in her life and it will happen. Besides, Millie has lost her damn mind! LOL
November 9th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
bootsie, i really hope you are right and the doctor said more than just it’s negative. but they didn’t lead on that they did anymore testing and when she was talking to haley, she didn’t talk about it either. but then again, this is the same girl that didn’t tell anyone about her attack either.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Oh and Jana is only doing a multi episode guest arc, so for those hoping Alex/Julian is going to happen, Sorry…I wouldn’t mind though if they went off to Hollywood together. Good riddance.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
I have mixed feelings about tonight’s episode
Milli.. for a supposedly smart person she’s pretty stupid! Hate her new her, cocaine..Really!!
Dan/Rachael.. finally they faced the Tree hill residents! Missed the Dan/Jamie scenes
Nathan/Rachael/Jamie scene was awkward and funny loool!
Naley we didn’t get much but it was better than nothing! Haley’s performing is always a good thing and the Baley scenes were cute.
The rachael slap cought me off guard! I don’t think it was necessary but I get that Brooke was pissed and she should be but I didn’t expect her to hit her that’s all.
And speaking of Brooke and Brulian I think oth writers are trying to force some drama into their relationship with this whole Alex/Julian thing but I don’t like it!
Alex I missed her, nice to c her on screen again.
Clay… I don’t like him with Quinn to be honest. His scenes with the boy were good but with her I feel like cringing! And I know they r trying to make Quinn this nice sweet person but I don’t buy it,i need more convincing. And yes Quinn get out of Naley’s!
The ending pissed me off mainly bcoz I wanted a proper Naley encore
loool
November 9th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
o boy! they are really ruining this TV show. from when i heard they’re would be a 7th season with few of the originals and new members i was upset but was gonna give the show the benefit of the doubt…throughout this season its just gotten worse and worse ..its not even the same show!! i probably know more about the shows history than the writers do. every episode, couple, kiss, breakup , storyline, etc. and its dissapointing to see what they are doing with the show.
What happened to the nathan and haley who would make the viewers want to replay their scenes over and over again??? ..they’ve become this boring couple that just keeps talking about how great their life is with Jami
or the love of brooke??
November 9th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Amy, I hope I’m right too, well, not for Brooke’s sake, but I think that’s the only thing that makes sense. They built it up, I don’t think they would’ve if it’d just been a false alarm.
That’s why the Dr looked so tragic, that’s why she was in such a state, that’s why she threw them away, she doesn’t need them, now or ever, and that’s why she asked why it isn’t going to be her. That’s the devastating news. I’m sure of it. I just don’t know when it’ll come out. Unless I’m totally wrong, of course, but again, why would they build it up just to let it fizzle? And her crying with Haley was a little intense to just be a false alarm, too.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:06 am
this episode was okay. i am glad to see dan back on screen interacting with nathan. i am so disappointed with the amount of time spent on all the other secondary characters. i dont really want to see milli and her issues. quinn and clay have no chemistry at all. and what a ripoff of nalay and there first kiss. they are definately not naley. as for then why do they not get any screen time? i am so tired of seeing then for 2 seconds and then watch all these characters on for half the episode. this was an important night in haleys life, you would think her husband would have been backstage to support her. and enough with the forehead kisses. i have been married alot longer than they have been on the show and my husband doesnt kiss me on the forhead. you would think after such a great performance they would get a real kiss. mark has no idea how to write for a long time married couple.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:07 am
bootsie^ I totally agree, I thought the Brooke doctor thing has more depth to it too…I commented earlier on this post with my speculation but meant to put *we didnt find that out, not he didn’t find that out whoops typo,… but whatever I think we are on to something though.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:10 am
I know what was wrong with the episode, barely any Naley! They are now the main couple in the show, and there are very few scenes. I mean seriously since we found out Renee was lying, there were two scenes with Naley. In last week’s episode there was one. This time there was two. I mean seriously this huge scandal is over and we get a total of three scenes, and are robbed of some Naley lovin!
Mark needs to get his priorities straight. He is filling up his 42 minutes with Quinn/Clay Alex/Julian and Millie. Last time I checked they aren’t the main characters.
If Naley had left the show instead of Leyton, I’m sure we would have gotten more Leyton scenes than we are Naley. As you can tell I’m not too happy about how much Naley we are getting.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:17 am
MORE NALEY!! I don’t know what the hell is going on but I don’t think they’ve starved Naley fans this much in years!!
I agree with Bootsie and Maggie about there being something more to Brooke’s appointment. I think Brooke trying to get pregnant on purpose–without Julian’s knowledge–would take what is great about OTH and turn it into a Soap Opera.
I’ve LOVED Alex but I didn’t like the dynamic of tonight. All the Brooke Davis fans were so happy to finally see Brooke happy. Why can’t she get a guy who will pick her? I get the situation was serious and the guilt Brulian would feel if something were to happen to Alex but get her a damn sponsor. I wish Brooke could find a guy who would put her first. She does so much for everyone else.
I really liked Rachel’s return! And I agree with her! Who leaves an envelop of cash with a junkie! Come on, Brooke! She’s sober, she’s sorry. It was obviously hard for Rachel to apologize, Rachel doesn’t normally apologize for anything.
Quinn bores me to TEARS. I flip through her scenes.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Where was Jamie when Haley had her concert?
Who was watching Jamie while his parents were at Tric?
Why’d they even have to include him in this episode? It was so good until he just randomly appeared.
Brooke’s dream was always to have her own clothing line… not to be a mom or a mother or a wife or any of this crap that was her reason for coming back to Tree Hill in season 5. I don’t buy into this at all. I haven’t. It’s one of the reasons I have not liked the Brooke character since she graduated from High School.
As for Brooke not being able to have kids… well maybe if she had kept her legs closed through high school her female parts would not be rotted out by her mid twenties.
So anyways did anyone even see at the end where the Bobcats signed a new point guard? This basically means Nathan is out of a job. To play basketball for a pro team he will need to sign with an out of state team… meaning he will NEVER be in Tree Hill as long as he continues to play pro ball.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:29 am
ok im starting to get scared. the beginning of the season we had this great naley sl, and now that its over we are hardly getting any naley. wth mark, dont turn this into another s6. im sick of all the time spent on clay/quinn, and naley gets nothing. the big difference between naley and clay/quinn? naley has a huge fanbase. get it straight already, i thought last season was bad, but season 7 is slowly turning into it.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:38 am
interesting episode, wasnt expecting alot of what happened, like brooke slaping rachel(even thou she totally desereved it!) and milly on the coke. and to think that i totally liked and respected milly…..
but can anyone tell me what the name of the song was that haley sang in this episode???? i liked it
November 10th, 2009 at 12:39 am
When Haley was standing backstage, nervous, I was waiting for Nathan to appear to comfort her. That’s all I needed was that one extra scene. I’m kinda mad at all the Quinn/Clay they had compared to Naley. Gimme my Naley! Giving us more Clay/Quinn scenes is not going to make us like them more, it’s going to make us hate them more. I don’t want to hate Clay, but with his dick move in not signing Nathan when he should of and concentrating on a married woman he was told to stay away from.. gahh.. =(
I hate agreeing with ed fury.. cause I never do.. but if she can’t have kids then yeah, it kinda is her fault. She was a slut and if she hadn’t been, then she would be able to have kids. The same with the end, until ed fury brought it up, all I kept thinking was Clay screwed him over but whats more is that now Nathan has to play in another state.
Now.. as much as Clay screwed them over, this is going to create drama. Naley drama, hopefully. But so far, none of these episodes are up to par with the first 7 episodes. Naley is what was keeping the show good and now.. it just isn’t as good.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:40 am
I’m guessing julian will find the pills and accuse Brooke of trying to get pregnant without telling him. Urg, this BJu drama is so not fun.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:41 am
The song Haley sang was “Maybe” by Everly. =)
November 10th, 2009 at 12:41 am
I agree I am not liking that there is no Naley scenes. Ththey will lose fans soon if this contiunes.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:46 am
OK I just HAVE to comment on some of these off-the-wall remarks.
As I respect all of your opinions on the episode, I myself, had my own rant.
But for those of you saying that if Brooke can’t have kids it’s because she’s a slut have seriously been misinformed. First of all, would everyone want to be judged or punished for the rest of their life because of mistakes made when younger? I think not. It’s the most ignorant sentiment I’ve heard.
“She was a slut and if she hadn’t been, then she would be able to have kids” –UH WHAT? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Those are not reasons why one cannot have kids. I know plenty of sluts who have kids… in fact some people have kids because they are sluts. And a lot of women who are not sluts have trouble conceiving. I think that’s a crazy notion you guys hold.
In addition, people change… that’s one thing this show has been brilliant at showing is Brooke’s evolution. Even though she was a ’slut’ in high school, many girls feel the same pressure she did when younger, and if you look around many women are acting in the same manner–it’s best to show that women can change and improve themselves, instead of blasting them with some sort of scarlet letter preaching that if you have sex when you’re young, stupid and impressionable, your insides will rot out and you won’t have kids. Not only do fear tactics like this NOT WORK, they are blatantly FALSE.
P.S. I hope there is something deeper to the Brooke storyline because I hate the fact of her throwing her birth control out. I also hate the fact that every girl on this show just wants to get married and have babies… show us some female characters who want something more–something like Brooke used to be.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:48 am
Clay’s a jackass. Two new regular characters and I hate both of them, well done writers.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:49 am
i agree with you danika about naley vs. quinn/clay. this is going to turn the naley fans against them because they will feel like all this time is being givin to crap instead of gold.
i dont agree with you on brooke, we dont why, if she cant, have kids. and i dont think it has nothing to do with her being skanky in highschool.
i do agree with you on the whole clay thing. i think he did screw nathan over. now if i was nathan i would pissed like you wouldnt believe.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Kind of a crass and inappropriate comment (ed fury) about Brooke’s high school activities… funny/sad how that wouldn’t be said about a male character if he was later found to be sterile.
I agree with Maggie and Bootsie about there being more to Brooke throwing away her birth control… her expression wasn’t one of scheming or manipulation, but just beaten and disappointed. I also agree about the serious look on the doctor’s face. If she can’t have kids, it kind of sucks they didn’t address it this episode. Probably the discarded birth control will be handled the same way a lot of things are… it won’t be! I hope I’m wrong and it is later resolved.
I also totally get where Brooke is coming from… yes, it sucks that she is insecure. But her character has always had a vulnerable insecurity underneath her cheery determination. I felt bad for her at the end when she was left alone again… Julian has done very VERY little that we’ve seen to reassure her ever since Alex came to town. He continues to show that he chooses his working relationship with Alex over Brooke, and I can understand how that would upset her… especially, considering that she wants commitment and more from him. Glad to see the Baley moments again – they should really capitalize on their friendship more. I would also love to see Mouth and Brooke team together to help each other AND Millie.
I agree with some earlier posts… tonight and last week’s episodes are making me dislike Clay in addition to Quinn! Clay has to be the world’s WORST sports agent!! He completely fumbled the Renee scandal and now the bombshell at the end. Quinn is still married (unless she got the fastest divorce in the world) and still annoying! I am glad he called her out on her cave being in a mansion… she is still a hypocrite and doesn’t matter how many cameras she makes for underprivileged kids, I’m not buying into her character. She needs to take her pot and leave… NOW.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:15 am
i have always hated quinn.
but clay is starting to move onto my sh*t list as well. like i said he screwed nathan over 2night.
and i think next week its going to pitt quinn/haley against each other. well…lets see who are fans going to get behind when that happens?
November 10th, 2009 at 2:06 am
omg, did you read this article! cw is either moving oth or gg
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/11/the-cws-midseason-drama-life-unxpected-gets-debut-date.html
November 10th, 2009 at 2:25 am
Ugh… I’d post a link about how various STDs can cause scarring of the fallopian tubes but we all know that sluts don’t get STDs on Tree Hill.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:29 am
kelly, E! Online is reporting that it’s Gossip Girl which will (temporarily) be moved.
And to the poster that said Alex is just a multi-episode guest-star: Mark Schwahn did an interview where he said he wanted to bring her on as a regular.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:36 am
i read the varity article and it said that it will take the place of gg will its be on winter break, and when the show comes back, oth will be on winter break and the that new show will take that place.
im not sure why the cw did it that way….what is in the slot that the beautiful life was in?
i having a feeling that if we get a s8, than oth may be moved…yet again.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:08 am
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=8377
according to that source the show will be taking both GG and OTH spots, but at different times.
“As for The CW, the netlet is expected to roll out “UneXpected” on Monday, January 18. The newcomer will take over for “Gossip Girl” at 9:00/8:00c for several weeks before settling into the 8:00/7:00c slot, currently home to “One Tree Hill,” in the spring.”
November 10th, 2009 at 3:13 am
I think the Brooke hate from this episode is a bit harsh. Starting off with her lack of understanding over Julian running off to Alex: History! How many times did Lucas, who told her over and over that he loved her, run off to save Peyton? Remember, it’s never words that convince Brooke, it’s action. Julian going to Alex, knowing Brooke’s fears just brings all of those past memories back and causes her to once again feel insecure.
Secondly; let’s look at the Rachel issue. I found Brooke completely justified in slapping her. Brooke tried her best to help Rachel, who repaid her by stealing her money. Upon her return to town, she then blames one of the just two people who believed in her for her relapse. In my opinion, Brooke could have done a lot worse to Rachel considering the high horse she was riding on.
As far as Brooke not telling Julian about the doctor’s appointment, why would she? She didn’t know for certain that she was pregnant. She was already worried about his feelings about having children. Why start something over what turned out to be nothing? There was no need for her to tell him about the appointment when she really didn’t know anything more than he did. I’m confused about why she threw away the birth control. I can’t see Brooke intentionally trying to get pregnant; but on this show anything is possible.
I’m not even going to touch on the preposterous notions some of you have about Brooke not being able to conceive because she was a “slut” in HS.
Those things being said, Sophia did an awesome job directing and Jana was definitely the standout performer of the night. She nailed it!
JMO.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:40 am
im not hating on brooke at all. and some of the posts saying because she was highly sexually active has something to do with her not able to have kids, i dont believe that.
and just because she was scared about being pregnant and then cried when she found out she wasnt. a lot of woman do that. they dont want a baby or are scared, and then when they find out they are sad, because deep down they did want that baby, and when they found out they arent pregnant it brings up that emotion
November 10th, 2009 at 3:44 am
I don’t think Brooke will try to get pregnant intentionally. I think the doctor said more but she just kept it to herself. My thoughts is that the doctor might have said she can’t have babies so that’s why she threw the pills away. I guess we’ll see in next epi.
I have to agree Jana was really good. I like her scenes with Austin.
I loved that Dan&Rachel are back but i hated it when Rachel said all those things to Brooke as if she didn’t help her at all. Brooke had suggested rehab and she said she couldn’t be alone so what does Brooke do? Take her home with her. Sounds like a pretty decent friend to me.
Sophia did an awesome job..there were lots of mirrors going on and I loved that!
November 10th, 2009 at 4:31 am
Okay, Brooke not being able to have children because she was a “slut” in HS? HAHAHAH, you’ve got to be kidding me, right? Are you guys serious? Please, a hooker can have children. It’s so ridiculous!
#41: I so agree with you! Great post. I feel bad for Brooke because it’s like with Lucas, the boy always saves the other girl. And that thing with Rachel, she deserved a slap.
I really don’t like Millie, and Mouth isn’t even supporting her in the right way. That’s strange.
Haleys song was great
November 10th, 2009 at 4:32 am
Can someone PLEASE explain this line to me. I don’t get it :/
Rachel (to Jamie): I remember when you were a rumor in third period.
November 10th, 2009 at 5:15 am
I liked the episode. I think I am one of the only Clay/Quinn supporters out there. While Im not a big fan of Quinn, and I do think Clay should do better for Nathans career, I have to say I thought that their scenes together were kinda cute. I totally agree that we need some more Naley time. They have been the staple couple since the begining and it should stay that way. I am not now nor have I ever been a fan of Dan. I liked Rachel for a while but I was never to keen on her either, making me REALLY not like them as a couple. It creeps me out. I am a HUGE Brooke fan. I always have been. I would love to see her get her happy ending. She deserves the boy and the baby. I have to say though I did enjoy the Julian and Alex scenes. I hate seeing Brooke hurt and upset but I could go for a Julian/Alex hook-up. It is very possible that they will say Brooke can’t have kids, but i kind of dont think thats what happened at the doctors. Normally they give us a little more of a hint. They would have ended that scene with the dr. making some comment leaving us to wonder what she said. But I am probably wrong. It does kind of feel like Brooke won’t get the baby or the boy.
Pauline I’m pretty sure that comment referred to season 4 when everyone thought Brooke was pregnant. No one really knew who was pregnant they just heard that one of the girls were. So tech. Jamie was just a rumor at that point.
November 10th, 2009 at 5:15 am
Didn’t like the ending at all!!!!!!! They were well sneaky!!! Letting NAthan find out that he has basically been saced on TV isn’t nice!
I hope that he getts annother slot!!!
Loved the bit where Miranda wasn’t so sure about the concert and Haley opened the door to show her the people already waiting out side, just like Lucas did on the forst night of Tricks openenig!!!!!
Loved the Dan and Jamie scenes!!!!
The bitch slapp between Brooke and Rachell was good!!! and I think, totally called for!!!!
The concert was amazing!!!
It seams like Quin ill be going back to her rootes, which should be good, and not living with Naley any more!
I agree,there has to be more to Brookes doctors appointment that she is letting on!!
November 10th, 2009 at 6:35 am
why are they givving the shows main couple only 2 scenes together, not everything dealing with naley has to be some big drama, why cant they even be in scenes together interacting?!
stop pushing clay and quinn on us, its not working for a majority of people, god writers, get a clue when you’re on break. stop sacrificing naley for these other, more useless characters.
alex was a fun character, now she turned predictable, whiney and needy. i can deal with millie’s storyline because at this point, she’s been there since season 5 and has earned her storyline unlike clay and quinn who just appeared and is eating up so much.
clay i was your biggest supporter but your hanging more with quinn, big fail in my book but now you dropped the ball on nathan’s career, even bigger fail. i hope when your getting choked, you’ll think about what needs to be done and hopefully save nathan’s career and get with someone other than your client’s sister in law.
November 10th, 2009 at 7:00 am
I liked last night’s episode but it wasn’t one of my favourites either. I have a really bad feeling that Brooke can’t have kids. When she throw the birth contol pills she was so sad and about to cry. The doctor told her more than that!! And some people here saying she can’t have kids because she was a slut.. What the hell?!? That is insane! So what she was young and made her mistakes at least she never stole somebody else’s boyfriend or stabbed somebody in the back. It will be so cruel of Mark if he will make her, she can’t have kids. She really wants to be a mother, she was so great with Angie and Sam. She really is the one that wants to be a mother and I hope she will be.
About Julian/Brooke… I was a really fan of Brucas but I love Brulian too. They grow on me. But last night and the few episodes he was working with Alex.. HE WAS AN ASS!! Brooke is his own girlfriend and he was spending time with Alex, who clearly wants him. And last night she was patethic and desperate for him to get him away from Brooke. She lied too!! I really don’t like Alex. And for Brooke it is Lucas all over again.. the second Peyton called he left Brooke to go to save Peyton.. and last night that was it the second Alex called he left his girlfriend alone to go save the crackwhore!! I don’t understand why Brooke can’t get a guy who focus on her and their future together instead always maked them to another woman!! I hope Julian wake up.. he knows about her insecurites and what Lucas done to her in the past.. I hope he will not do the same thing. It will be patethic.
Haley/Nathan. I wished there were scenes of them.
November 10th, 2009 at 7:03 am
Ok so I havent read through all of the comments on here so sorry if Im repeating something. I just really have something to say about this episode.
First off, Brooke. I like to think what would happen in real life and I think her reaction is pretty spot on. She has been wanting a baby for the longest time so even though she isnt sure about how Julian will react, she thinks she is pregnant and its not hard to get excited about something you have been waiting for for so long. Even if its not in the best of circumstances. Believe me Ive been there. So keeping in mind that she has already gotten excited about the possibility and then let down in maybe a harsher way than we know, her reaction to an already strained relationship with the whole Julian/Alex thing is pretty realistic. Remember that she doesnt know the Alex that Julian knows. She knows slutty actress (ex) addict who was most definitely going for her man, called her boyfriend to come over saying she needed’ him. Especially when she may have just gone through some major disappointment and needed some time with Julian. I wasnt sure what to think about the throwing away of the pills but I dont think that Brooke would go as far as to try and have a baby behind his back when she has been so afraid of letting people in. I think that other peoples assumptions of maybe she cant have kids might be a good one.
Ok I know that was long but moving on. Millie has been stressed out pretty much since she showed up on OTH. While it seems far fetched to think that someone like her would go that far, I can see where it is coming from. All of the sudden she is pushed into the spot light, she has been “assigned” to Alex who has rubbed off on her in the worst way and now she is becoming her because she is insecure. Alex has been making her drink FOR her so step one to addiction… then alex says something about diet pills which in Millie’s mind may not be so bad, but really we dont know what she is actually taking. It could be something way worse than what we think because it has made her completely different (raiding Alex’s closet and talking the way she is). I dont think that she would go for the cocaine like she did. With Millie I would have been more convinced had she been peer pressured to do it at a party or something first. I feel really bad for Mouth and Brooke because I can see her going down the Rachel road. Mouth and Millie wont last. Im sure of it. There is no going back from drug use at least not for a long time.
I dont have too much to say about the rest of them. Quinn annoys the heck out of me. She is too whiney for my taste. Clay I really like. Sad about his wife. Id like to know why she died. Dan, I used to like post murder but pre-tv show. He has become too “I am the messiah! I must save all through forgiveness!” I really dont like that he married rachel and he is such a hypocrite. I liked feeling sorry for him more. I think Rachel deserved the slap because that is no way to apologize to someone. Brooke did what she could to help her out (we all know the influences of Victoria so I think she held her own pretty well) and then Rachel is using Dans money to get her own forgiveness. But forgiveness is not something that can be bought. Haley and Nathan have been pretty steady so I have no comment on them really. Jamie is cute as always and very insightful. Chase and Mia is expected not to have to many scenes because Mia is actually a singer and probably has a busy schedule. She is really just a long term guest star. Chase is there because he is with Mia and has a past with Brooke. Skills character is kind of up in the air as well. Is he moving out, is he not? If he is so close with this group of friends we should be seeing him more often. Especially at Haley’s concert. Or at least at Mouth and Millie’s place because, well, he lives there. Ok im dont with my 2 cents.
November 10th, 2009 at 7:32 am
Pauline: Rachel meant that she remembered back in the days when Haley being pregnant was a rumor talked about around the school e.g. in third period.
BTW Amy, I think you were WAY too hard on Brooke! She has wanted a baby for years now and yes she had doubts but Haley got her excited. Don’t you know what it’s like to get your hopes up about something and then have it taken away? Ontop of that the man she loves is spending alot of time with a girl that is obviously into him and given Brooke’s history, I don’t think you can blame her for being insecure and angry.
When she says “Why can’t you be the girl that gets the baby and the boy?” she wasn’t just crying because she’s not pregnant but because she has been let down and feels like she is losing “the boy” (all over again, I might add). I love confident Brooke but it’s always been known that she has insecurities and abandonment issues (can you blame her?). Julian is a good guy but about as stupid as Lucas where Brooke is concerned. She should dump his stoopid ass. Make him fight for her.
Ontop of that, both Rachel and Millie were being bitches, Brooke had every right to be pissed of. If either of them had just apologised properly or said something appropriate I’m sure Brooke would have forgiven them. Instead Milly acted like Alex circa the earlier episodes and Rachel turned the blame on Brooke.
Brooke let Julian in and to her it feels like history is repeating itself. She did a good thing for Milly helping her become a model. She helped Rachel. She is always helping people and it always gets thrown in her face. Brooke is lonely, she’s feeling hurt and betrayed by the people she loves and I think she is acting appropriatly to that and I’m sorry but anyone who calls her needy or whinny needs to take a serious look at Peyton ssn 1-5 and re-asses.
Naley were great this ep though.. LOVED every minute.
Oh and Nicole. N. I COMPLETELY agree with everything you said!
RANT OVER….
November 10th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Pauline: Rachel meant that she remembered back in the days when Haley/Brooke being pregnant was a rumor talked about around the school e.g. in third period.
BTW Amy, I think you were WAY too hard on Brooke! She has wanted a baby for years now and yes she had doubts but Haley got her excited. Don’t you know what it’s like to get your hopes up about something and then have it taken away? Ontop of that the man she loves is spending alot of time with a girl that is obviously into him and given Brooke’s history, I don’t think you can blame her for being insecure and angry.
When she says “Why can’t you be the girl that gets the baby and the boy?” she wasn’t just crying because she’s not pregnant but because she has been let down and feels like she is losing “the boy” (all over again, I might add). I love confident Brooke but it’s always been known that she has insecurities and abandonment issues (can you blame her?). Julian is a good guy but about as stupid as Lucas where Brooke is concerned. She should dump his stoopid ass. Make him fight for her.
Ontop of that, both Rachel and Millie were being bitches, Brooke had every right to be pissed of. If either of them had just apologised properly or said something appropriate I’m sure Brooke would have forgiven them. Instead Milly acted like Alex circa the earlier episodes and Rachel turned the blame on Brooke.
Brooke let Julian in and to her it feels like history is repeating itself. She did a good thing for Milly helping her become a model. She helped Rachel. She is always helping people and it always gets thrown in her face. Brooke is lonely, she’s feeling hurt and betrayed by the people she loves and I think she is acting appropriatly to that and I’m sorry but anyone who calls her needy or whinny needs to take a serious look at Peyton ssn 1-5 and re-asses.
Naley were great this ep though.. LOVED every minute.
Oh and Nicole. N. I COMPLETELY agree with everything you said!
RANT OVER….
November 10th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Nicole N comment 41 You have just said everything I wanted to say. Brooke is insecure because she has been burnt by a sucky ex boyfriend (Lucas) and the skankiest best friend you could get (Peyton) Good riddance to old rubbish!
November 10th, 2009 at 7:48 am
# 45 I think they were refering to the rumour that it was Brooke who was pregnant making her the 3rd person
November 10th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Amy- I totally agree with you. I got on last night asking was THIS the episode that Sophia directed, b/c if it was, it wasnt all that! I wont repeat anything b/c I agree with everything you said, I didnt think abut Brooke “understanding” Alex, I kinda agreed with Brooke for a minute there until they realized there was no drugs & you saw the sneaky lil Millie… then I really did feel bad for Alex. It was an ok eppy… lets see what else happens!
November 10th, 2009 at 8:51 am
You obviously don’t understand Brooke’s character at ALL. She’s wanted a baby so badly that testing positive then finding out she wasn’t is as painful as having a miscarriage. Not everyone feels the need to be all holy and religious and ensure they are married before they have a child; if she were to adopt she wouldn’t have been REQUIRED to be married would she?
And if Alex were any other person maybe she wouldn’t have been so upset, but COME ON, Julian was being a huge ass by spending so many nights with Alex despite Brooke’s being uncomfortable with it because she KNEW Alex’s intentions, and then instead of telling someone else to go help her with the drugs, or telling Brooke to her face Alex needed help, or even TAKING Brooke to help Alex, he left and then called her on the way? Really? It’s not even that she doesn’t trust him, she doesn’t trust ALEX and he should respect that.
And she’s obviously not planning on doing anything more WITH Julian that would result in a baby, she’s given up hence the pills being thrown in the trash. She is not stupid enough to try to trap anyone with a pregnancy.
November 10th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Well if Jana becomes a regular, I guess it’s goodbye Brulian. Whatever, as I said before Brooke deserves somebody that will put her first,…always.
November 10th, 2009 at 9:04 am
I don’t get the Brooke hate, I think her reactions were spot on. Julian is crossing the line with Alex, he has taken a working relationship and advanced it to something personal. Julian is ignoring the obvious, that Alex is interested in him, she wants him & she has hopes for being more than his co-worker or friend.
Suddenly she is putting Julian in a difficult spot, she is making him her salvation, the only person who can save her. So now if he eventually turns his attention from her she will spiral out of control. At the same time Brooke is forcing the issue, she wants Julian to draw a line (any woman would) and I bet he will, then Alex will do something horrible to herself and Julian will shift the blame on Brooke.
Truth is that Julian should have taken Alex to rehab, to a meeting, to a counsler, to a professional who help her with her addiction problem. Eventually Alex would re-lapse anyway, even if Julian was there for her 24/7, because eventually something would happen that let her down.
As for Brooke, I do think it’s possible that Brooke got bad news, I doubt she would attempt to get pregnant to trap Julian. So A, perhaps the doctor told her she could not have kids OR.. B, the doctor gave her a new type of birthcontrol, so she is throwing out the old stuff. The birthcontrol is in the garbage so that Julian will see it and then assume Brooke is attempting to get pregnant without his knowledge, causing a rift in their already shaky relationship.
Last..
I think the point is that Julian is emotionally supporting Alex and her needs and at the same time he isn’t seeing Brooke at all. He is assuming that since Brooke is strong and independent that the relationship doesn’t require work and time, he is very ignorant to what he is doing & how it effecting his relationship.
His father asked him how Brooke was and how things were and he was like, great, good and then got right to working on a movie with his dad.
November 10th, 2009 at 9:59 am
If brooke really physically can’t have kids, I’m doubting they’ll go into any reason, but yeah STDs can cause infertility, as well as a number of other things.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:03 am
^ I agree with everything. Everyone should just take a look at history of this show and you will understand why Brooke acted this way and her last line in last night’s episode was hearbreaking. Her only wish is family and yet for some reason Mark and writers keep screwing with her.
I really think she found out she can’t be pregnant and she’s just keeping it all inside because that’s what she always does, same thing happened when she was attacked.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Oops I was agreeing with cbs123. And enough with stupid std stuff, if it was Nathan I doubt you would be saying those kind of things.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Teendramawhore, you’re right. I also read a Mark Schwahn interview a while back wherein he mentioned that he plans to promote Jana Kramer/Alex Dupre to a series regular. That’s good. I guess we’ll be seeing more of Alex this season. Btw, I liked your interview with Lee Norris. Good job!
Sophia Bush did a great job directing this episode, in my opinion. Maybe the slap was her idea. Haha!
Here’s another link regarding how Life Unexpected’s debut will affect the schedules of Gossip Girl and One Tree Hill. Will One Tree Hill be moved to another timeslot or another night? Maybe, maybe not. Anything is possible. We’ll see what happens.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/11/09/cws-life-unexpected-debuts-jan-18-gossip-girl-to-go-on-hiatus/33103
November 10th, 2009 at 10:58 am
i disagree with the brooke comments tbh..she obv is upset and wanted a baby for sooo long…need to wait to hear the whole story before judging her actions..BUT seriously? im lol-ing at the references to Peyton..as many people have pointed out..her AND lucas are not on the show anymore..just because brooke is getting abuse from some people doesnt mean you have to all turn it back to her….
November 10th, 2009 at 10:59 am
I have to say I was really annoyed by Brookes reaction to not being pregnant but after reading Bootsie comments I now see that maybe there is more to it than we know. If she was in fact told she couldn’t EVER have children then I could understand her reaction and it could also quite possibly explain why she was so angry at Millie and then slapping Rachel and also frustrated with Julian. I too thought she was throwing away her birth control pills to try and get pregnant again, but it makes more sense that she is throwing them away because she doesn’t need to be on them, she can’t get pregnant.
Haley was awesome but I wish we could have seen her performance a bit more and a least have her get some feed back from her friends on how she did. The Naley was a big disappointment. What is with the big forehead kiss Nathan planted on her. Did he forget where her mouth is? I fear that now that the scandal is over, Naley will go back to there old ways again doing nothing.
Quinn and Clay, don’t care. So now Quinn spends her time volunteering at a kids community center. How does she make money?
Milli wants to be and act like Alex. Okay, but to much story line for Millie. This is big for a not main character.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Okay, so i am with the majority thinking that brooke can’t have kids. She’s never that harsh to ppl even when she’s sad, so it must have been REALLY bad news. And to those people scoffing at the idea of being infertile from having an std…don’t. It can happen, and it does happen. Though I don’t think Mark would go that way in this show- probably some congenital problem.
Anyway I also agree with the people getting annoyed at every girl on this show only wanting to have babies and get married. doesn’t anyone on this show just want to be young and have fun?you can do the other stuff later! You can still be in a serious relationship but be young!
I miss high school brooke. She was quirky and fun. Bring her back!
Millie- bit of a shock but i’m sure they’ll get her right again. She hasn’t had drama for a while so it’s her turn.
Clay/quinn: I want to like them…i think they are alright. pretty cute, but i’m not feeling the epic love just yet haha. maybe it’s just cus there’s so much else happening- who knows where they will go with that.
Clay- well he may have screwed nathan over a bit, but he;s an agent, he’s meant to get the best deal..this one just ended horribly..
So glad haley is singing again! And good to have rachel back and making things awkward haha i like her.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Thank you, Marck. I appreciate the backup and the feedback!
November 10th, 2009 at 11:25 am
I liked this episode it could have been better but it wasn’t horrible…
LOVED the Rachel/Dan scenes. I always liked the HS Rachel too she just kinda grew on me I guess and It sucks because there at the end of HS before Rachel and Mouth took off to New Orleans her and Brooke where good friends and yes I understand Rachel made some bad decisions but she tried to appologize and just got a slap in the face?
Not sure if that was entirely fair.
–> When Rachel made the comment to Nathan “Funny I used to want you to be my daddy and now I’m your mommy” Sooo good almost as good as “grandma Rachel”
–> I don’t think that Brroke is overreacting at all about the Alex and Julian relationship it’s exactally what happened with Lucus and Peyton and they ended up together soo…
And as far as the reason being that she can’t ger pregnant being because she was a “Whore” in hs is total bull eveyone knows that is a bunch of crap.
But I do agree I don’t think she belongs with Julian but I don’t agree that she belongs with Clay.
–> I really like Quinn and Clay she doesn’t annoy me at all,It’s good for him I thought after they showed us all the Sarah scenes ya’ll might understand that!!
November 10th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
So glad Dan is back. He is the villain I love to hate!It will be interesting to see what he does to help Nathan get his career back on track. By the way,one of my favourite quotes of the night was when Nathan said to Dan “when you and Deb are tired of my high school class I’m sure I could rummage through some of my old middle school friends for you.” One of the beefs I have are the references Quinn has made to the things she and Haley did in high school. First one being last week when Quinn said she and Taylor would make the “magic” brownies for Haley in high school when Haley was stressed about tests. Then last night Quinn said she and Haley volunteered at the community centre in high school. Wasn’t Haley the only one living at home when she was in high school?!I also hope Grubbs sticks around. He was funny!Looking forward to how the Scott family deals with Dan being back and being married to Rachel and what will happen before Haley goes on tour. I hope Nathan and Jamie go with her.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Danika, they can’t re-do Nathan’s contract at the end of the year. Let me try to help you understand Nate’s situation. I’m a basketball fan and an NBA fan too so I’ll try to explain it further to you and the others as well.
I think Clay is not the main reason why Nathan didn’t get re-signed by the Bobcats. We can’t put all the blame on Clay. I think it has more to do with what the Bobcats want.
We know that when the Bobcats picked up Nathan from the D League, they only signed him to a one year/one season contract. That’s why Nate said that his rookie year is also a contract year for him. Meaning if he plays WELL in his one year/first year/rookie contract, come free agency (which he is now, a free agent, after his first contract of one year expired), he can now negotiate for a renewed/better contract (with a higher salary and covering more years under contract) compared to his old/first contract.
Now, it has been established in the show (when Nate, Clay, Quinn, etc. spoke about it) that Nathan DID play well and had stellar numbers and performances for the Charlotte Bobcats. Hence it was only natural for Clay (or any other sports agent) to try to get the Bobcats to offer Nathan a 4 year contract or at least a 3 year contract, instead of a 2 year contract. I think a 2 yr. contract is a slap to Nate’s face and a lousy offer from the Bobcats especially since Nathan had a great year of basketball and had great performances (according to Nate, Clay and Quinn themselves).
Btw, what are Nathan’s basketball stats from his NBA rookie year? Did they mention it already in past episodes? Maybe I just missed it. Maybe it would help us see if Nate truly deserves to get a 4 year contract. But knowing Nathan Scott, I’m sure he played spectacularly and deserves more than just a 2 year contract.
Was it a right move for Clay and Nathan to reject Charlotte’s initial offer of a 2 year contract and ask instead for a 3 or 4 year contract? Yes, I think it was the right move as long as Nathan had the stats and awesome performances to back it up, and he DID. Was it a risky move? Yes it was. But that’s the reality of being a professional basketball player in the NBA that Nathan just has to accept. The NBA player veterans, the sports agents and team owners/general managers know this.
I think Clay did everything he could. He had his phone with him all the time. Always checking it and making and answering calls. I actually think that it’s the Bobcats team that sucks for not re-signing Nate and instead did a hush hush deal/signing of one Derrick McDaniel (did I get his name right?). Question is: Is this McDaniel guy better than Nate? Is that why they signed him instead?
Clay had a point. I think the Bobcats didn’t put enough emphasis on Nathan’s performance and capabilities when they offered him a new 2 yr. contract. They chose to see the negative publicity that Nate got involved in and tried to capitalize on it by giving Nate a low offer (2 yr. contract). But Nathan’s name has already been cleared from the scandal. Teams can be cruel at times.
As heard in the news, with the Bobcats signing McDaniel, the team already has capped out or reached its limit on their salary cap. Nate can still be picked up by the team but that would mean that the team would go beyond the salary cap. In the NBA, it’s rare for a team to go beyond the cap as it will entail more costs to them. Usually only the teams that are title contenders are the ones that risk going beyond the salary cap. And I think in reality and even in OTH, the Bobcats are not title contenders. Hence, it’s likely that Nate won’t get signed by Charlotte but this doesn’t mean that his career is over. It may just mean more drama and decisions to make for Naley and Clay. It’s possible that Nate might have to look for another city/franchise/team to play for (if he’s willing to do that). Are there any other NBA teams near the Tree Hill/Wilmington/North Carolina area besides the Bobcats? Maybe Nate can play with the Atlanta Hawks or Memphis Grizzlies or Cleveland Cavaliers or Washington Wizards? Boston Celtics? But if he does play for another city, what does that mean for Haley and Jaimie?
Sorry for the long post. I hope I made sense and I hope my inputs helped.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
It was probably the worst episode this season. Nothing really gelled…it was weird. Clay and Quinn have been friends all of 2 episodes and all of a sudden they are talking about wanting to be together for SO LONG??? Brooke was taking her anger out on everyone. Millie just needed to be slapped upside the head. I didnt get why Brooke was still so angry at Rachel…the girl was hooked on drugs when she stole whatever. I was really hoping for a renewal of the Brooke/Rachel frenemies, but now i dont know.
I just hope next week goes back to normal :-/
November 10th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Brooke deserves her happy ending, Julian is an idiot!! She really broke my heart last night when she said ‘why can’t I get the boy and the baby’.. and there is more of her story. Maybe she can’t have kids or something like that, since she throw her birth control pills. And god I hate Alex!!
It is like the Peyton/Lucas over again. Peyton was so whiny and wanted someone to save her all the time. Mark gave us another Peyton but this time brunette instead of blonde grrrr. Always messing with Brooke!! Why can’t she find someone that focus on her and their lives together instead of wanting to be the hero and save another woman? I mean his girlfriend is alone and he is with someone else who clearly wants him! Brooke deserve better than that.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Brooke wasn’t my favorite in this episode but she has every right to feel upset at Julian. I totally think she had some sort of bombshell to tell Julian, after he’s been spending so much time with Alex, and now when SHE is in a crisis, Alex takes priority. Sorry, but if she is in that bad of trouble, CHECK INTO REHAB! Brooke needed Julian and he put Alex first.
Yeah, of course Brooke isn’t Peyton. Brooke knows when she wants something, she doesn’t have to reflect for 4 years to know she loves someone. Brooke wants Julian and if he ends up pulling a Lucas, aka ruining what he has with her for a needy damsel in distress, then that’s not her fault.
I wish Julian would have left Alex alone; he’s not her father or her boyfriend or a babysitter. He helped her with her script because that’s within his expertise but that was a huge favor.
I hope everyone who accuses her of overreacting feels like an idiot when she actually ends up having a good reason for the way she behaved. Brooke is annoyed because she gives and gives and gives and the people around her, Julian, Alex, Peyton, Lucas, Millie, Rachel, haven’t been giving back!
Thank goodness for Haley. At least someone knows how to be a good friend to her.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Ugh, Amy I really appreciate your blog and how you give us the latest news and take your time to keep it up. That being said, I really hate when Leyton fans accuse Brooke of being unreasonable. Your favorite is Peyton. “Peyton would cry for you all the time, because she does that.” She has breakdowns over baby cribs. Honestly.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Ed Fury, your comments on Brooke are a complete joke. Peyton had plenty of problems in the nether region as well, lest you forgot the pool of blood on her wedding day? Does that mean she was slutting it around too much in high school too? Have some common sense.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
I agree with EVERYTHING you said plussizzegrl !!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Oh please don’t compare Peyton to Brooke. Brooke was a slut in HS. Deal with that. Peyton was not a slut like Brooke.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
I haven’t read all 75 comments, so don’t shoot me if I’m being redunant here, but I really liked this episode. There was nice Baley time. Any it’s normal for Brooke to be worried about Julian’s reaction to he maybe being pregnant, and after talking to her BFF, become more excited about the prospect. She has wanted a baby for a long time. But, it’s normal to be conflicted esp. with all the drama with Julian and Alex.
As for the Rachel slap, I’m glad she slapped her. They’ll get over this, but she did totally screw her over. Brooke was there for her and she stole from her. Not nice. Junkie or no. Okay maybe in real life, you wouldn’t ACTUALLY slap your former friend. But this is TV and this IS Brachel.
November 10th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I am over Alex, she is such a drama queen and is bringing nice guy Julian down. It sucks that he and Brooke are not like they were in the start, I liked that. And it was clear that this was going to happen when they cast the character of Alex, it is typical of shows, always make the happy people miserable. Case in point Nathan and Haley with this scandal, always drama on the hill. but supose you need that. Brooke was slightly annoying in this ep and that is saying a lot from me as I am a huge Brooke fan. Just dont get what the rush is? I liked Quinn & Clay they were cute, just wish this had happened like 4 eps ago. I was shocked at Millie, I dont like they way her storyline is going. Julian was kinda mean to Brooke didnt like that at all.
But best part of ep is when Brooke slapped Rachel, classic and she totally deserved it :p
November 10th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Thats one thing we have to remember, as if half this stuff would happen in real life lol
November 10th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Oh please Peyton wasn’t a virgin either or an angel. Nathan and letting him using her like his personal bitch whenever he wants, and than Lucas, Jake, Pete, and then Jake again and then Lucas again, Julian and then Lucas!! Plus she was whiny and desperate for someone to save her. You wouldn’t call everytime your bestfriend’s boyfriend to come for rescue. Thank god SHE IS GONE but I guess we have an other Peyton, sadly.
Seriously I don’t understand all this Brooke hate. I love Brulian but yesterday I wanted Brooke to dump him or kick him out of her house. She deserved more than him. He is just like Lucas. Maybe she will hire a Hot model working for her.. and we see Julian then!
November 10th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
One more thing: I find it hard to believe that any doctor would tell Brooke she could never have children after one missed period (she said she’s never even late) and one doctor’s appt. Unrealistic.
November 10th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
I disagree Peyton is not a slut Brooke is Tree Hill slut. Come on. Brooke slept with everybody : Nathan, Lucas, Felix, Chris Keller, Her teacher, Nick Lachey, Julian…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
November 10th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Well whatever HS was years ago!! But well thank god she is gone LOL!
November 10th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
okay. guys, how can you guys hate brooke so much…
shes been through alot of things and having friends thats married and has babies, she has the right to feel like she wants both too…….
also, brooke rocks.
November 10th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
I don’t get why people want Brulian to break up just because Julian tried to be a good guy and not a person take cocaine !!! Yay he such a monster ! lol …..
Anyway I felt bad for Brooke too, I don’t like to see her like that, tbh I just hope Alex will go away ! Even if I like her, she becomes annoying !
November 10th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
* not let a person take cocaine !
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November 10th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Sorry, in my opinion, flirting with people who are in a relationship is the benchmark of sluttiness.
November 10th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
I agree that there have been few naley scenes. What intrigues me is that in the past the show has played with time, so what is to stop them from doing it again? I mean the NBA season is not all year. The writers can work around the season with Nathan on an actual good team. (No offense Bobcats fans)Nathan seems like a perfect fit for the San Antonio spurs. (A team that is used to winning and picking great players with high moral values.) Nathan can tour with Haley and Jamie during the summer and be back in time for the start of the new season. Any thoughts?
November 10th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
“I absolutely hated what they are doing to Brooke with the Julian/Alex situation. I am beyond tired of her getting the short end of the stick on everything since season 3.”
^ totally agree with that from a earlier post. Totally not getting why all the hatred for Brulian all of a sudden? and why is everyone lovin on Alex? I hated her from the start, and unlike sam and Q, she will not grow on me at all. I really felt bad for Brooke tonight, She was being understand with Julian and he totally took advantage, I think there’s something going on with Brooke, something we don’t know yet..but hopefully this storyline with Brooke gets better.
Def agree with not enough Naley moments, was not expecting the bobcats to sign someone else either!
As for the Millie thing, that totally blew my mind too, but don’t think she was being fake at all.
Usually I don’t disagree with your reviews but I think you should watch it a couple more times like you said!
November 11th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Seriously, what’s with the people hating on Brooke and loving Alex?