Feb 08,2010
7.16 My Attendance is Bad But My Intentions Are Good Spoilers Reaction
Posted by Amy with 90 Comments
It’s been a while since I had tears while watching One Tree Hill but tonight I had eyes full of them. All in one episode we find out that Haley’s dad has passed and Lydia is not far behind. Too much!
- Having Lydia back was fabulous. I have missed the adults/parents of the show so, so much. It was GREAT to see Haley turning to an adult for advice/help. It was great to see someone older and wiser giving advice. Just because our character are adults now doesn’t mean we can’t have people like this on the show. As much as I love Dan and Victoria they just weren’t filling that void for me. And tonight made me miss Keith and Karen SO MUCH.
- So here we have Lydia back only to find out she’s leaving soon. The final scene where it morphs into a photo years ago about tore my heart out. Beautifully done but so sad.
- I don’t think them telling us in a side conversation between Lydia and Clay about Haley’s dad was much fair. I know he never showed up much but ouch! That was hard to digest like that.
- Taylor’s reaction was ridiculous. But what else should we expect from Taylor.
- I don’t think it was fair of Lydia to expect so much from Haley. Haley needs a chance to process it too and I felt like that was too much.
- Nathan was sorely underutilized tonight. I felt like he was just carting Jamie around. Then again, that’s what we parents do in real life
The final scene with Haley was great though. It was beautiful to see Haley leaning on Nathan like that. - Miranda and Grubbs…love it. Go for it, both of you!
- Alex, my dear, please for the love respect yourself a little more. You barely even know the guy. Gross.
- Julian was sweet to Brooke. Again, it still irritates me that Brooke won’t be with him and yet is following him around. In the words of Stephanie Meyer, she’s such a masochist!
- And in the most random storyline tonight, glad Millie is getting some help.
- *UPDATED* Totally forgot to add that I love that Lydia got Quinn the studio and looking forward to storylines surrounding that@
All in all, a good episode. What did you think?
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Okay, I had to get this off my chest, or else I won’t be able to fall asleep. I’m so wound up right now. I thought it was the best epi of the season probably, but as the same time, my chest ached throughout the whole thing! I don’t think I’ve ever really cryed tears during an OTH epi before, but I did tonight. Was this the epi that Mark called hopeful??? Is he smoking crack??? I found this to be anything but hopeful– a mom dying, and Brooke being so forlorn and Julian’s mixed signals . . .And the preview for next week— If he sleeps with her (ALEX) I’m done with OTH. I never thought I’d say that but he’s seriously annoying me. He’s turning into confused/mixed messages LucASS.
i thought it was one of the best episodes. i was really shocked to find out about haley’s dad. i mean they were “oh ever since dad died” and i was what?!
as for taylor i can understand. people deal with grief in different ways. i think we will see taylor start to crack.
putting so much on haley isnt fair. but it could lead up to some really good naley scenes. so thats always good
great writing tonight, and great storyline. props to joy, lindsay, and bess they were great tonight with their acting.
Nathan’s been sorely underutilized all season.
i think lydia knows that even though haley’s the youngest, she’s the wisest. I mean she’s the youngest and most stable one out of all of them with a husband kid and financially secured.
I agree with Nathan, what was the point of that scene in Lucas’ room, that was really to prop up Jamie but I really would’ve liked Nathan to say how much he did miss Lucas too. That’s all i wanted because the show was first and foremost about Nathan and Lucas.
Anyways, great episode except for the nathan part but i agree loved to have the adults back. i think it would’ve been nice that after Nathan tucked Jamie to bed that Nathan would call deb up to say hi just like how peyton called her dad last season. i mean every scene with haley tonight just nailed it, it was great and i can feel for tha james’ cuz i know how devastating and heart breaking cancer can be. really good episode.
So tonight was probably my favorite episode of the season.
I thought it was brilliantly done. The only thing I needed was for them to explain the reason Haley’s dad wasn’t around, and they did that. I felt like Nathan could’ve stayed around more for Haley, but I get the whole him looking after Jamie thing. I mean as someone who’s been touched by cancer within my family it was just awesome and it honestly really made me miss my grandpa. Every scene with Haley crying tore me to pieces even if it wasn’t that dramatic. Just kind of sympathizing with how she felt. I don’t know it’s just weird. I’m a guy and tonight was the first night I’ve ever had with One Tree Hill that made me want to cry. I love the fact that Lydia’s gotten Quinn her own studio. With the whole Brooke and Julian situation. I don’t know. Honestly Brooke’s my favorite girl, but she’s starting to have a point. I don’t know a guy that would completely sell his car in order to finance a movie for any girl unless he was to some extent interested in her which I’m sure is really the whole cause of what’s bothering Brooke. Either way they’ll make it back together. I really enjoyed tonights episode and I agree with the picture at the ending. Overall the episode was just really brilliantly done and go Millie for trying to get help. I did expect as classic OTH for her to walk in on Mouth and Lauren doing the nasty. But I’m looking forward to next week. Awesome episode!
Probably the best of the season so far!
I loved Joy tonight she did such a good job has Haley and the only thing I liked about tonight’s episode was her story line with her mom dying. I’m still not feeling Quinn and I think Joy can act circles around most of the cast, I cried at the end Haley leaning on Nathan was awesome and one of the best things about OTH and the Naley relationship. I get that Taylor is grieving and I thought her reaction was spot on given Taylor’s character. My one question when did Haley’s dad die and why was that never mentioned?
I hate Alex and everything involving her, I hate Julian for hurting Brooke and being blind and to dumb to notice it. I don’t care if Brooke is being a bitch, he’s being an ass. his crap about needing to find the words to tell Brooke he loves her is bull crap. Should his ass sleep with that skank Alex as alluded to in the previews for next week I will turn off my TV from this show.
I hated that Nathan was basically an extra this episode. Though I will admit him telling Brooke he would ‘knock some sense’ into Julian was awesome, can he please?
Miranda/Grubbs was good and I liked their scenes.
Millie I am glad that they are bringing her back to Millie of old. Cracked out MIllie was always to be beyond retarded I am so proud that she went to the movie.
Kelly
Loved all the James girls tonight. They were great. Joy was great! Bess was great. Lindsey was great. And Shantel was pretty good too.
Brooke and Julian…just get back together already!
Miranda and Grubbs…sorry but why did they eat up so much screen time?
At least Millie went to the meeting, that’s good.
Overall I thought it was pretty good but Nathan needed more screen time…preferably with Haley.
I was incredibly frustrated by finding out that Jimmy was MIA in a scene with Lydia-Quinn and then finding out he had died in a scene with Lydia-Clay. And then no scene of Haley telling Nathan about Lydia but one of Quinn telling Clay? Ugh. And it’s so frustrating that Lydia is dying and Jimmy is already dead because we’ve missed so much of their parent-child relationship and this ensures we’ll soon have no possibility of more.
Nathan and Jamie talking about Lucas was bittersweet because I was so glad to see him (and Peyton) mentioned but they way it happened, it made it seem like they never talk about him or talk to him.
Shocked to see a Brooke-Jamie and a Brooke-Nathan scene. Missed those so much.
Glad to see they’ll likely explore Quinn’s career. I want to know more about Quinn independent of Haley and Clay and David. That’s a big area where they’ve failed with her. We don’t know who Quinn herself is.
It seems like the show is listening to some fan complaints but not others and even their solutions aren’t completely fulfilling.
Amy, I’m not sure why you think Taylor’s reaction is ridiculous (it’s actually quite common for those situations and practically a TV cliche) but think Haley’s reaction is fine. They’re practically the same thing. Taylor doesn’t want to deal so she’s running away. Haley doesn’t want to deal because she doesn’t think she can handle it. Taylor running is because she doesn’t think she can handle it either and doesn’t want to. Both had legit reactions and I think Taylor should be cut some slack.
I definitley had tears in my eyes in this episode tonite. I loved seeing the 3 sisters and lydia i always liked her. I think them bringing up that haleys dad died was random and should have maybe been dealt w/more in S5 I feel like we missed something. I would’ve liked to have seen a scene b/t lydia/nate/jamie more and nate was really pushed back in this eppy. I agree he was just carting jamie around give us more naley, although him comforting her @ the end was a nice/sad moment. I’m sry but brulian is starting to bore me, but it was nice to see millie finally admit she has a problem.
Agreed teendramawhore about Taylor and totally with you about why quinn got tell clay and we didnt get to see haley tell nathan. i think it would’ve worked better that way.
and about taylor, i agree she is being selfish but everyone needs to process things in their own way and time.
TDW, how was Haley not dealing? She was the one trying to get Taylor to stick around. She’s also by her Mom’s side after she told her.
i really enjoyed 2nights episode. i was shocked to find out that james is dead. i mean when did that happen?
joy was wonderful tonight, but i sort of knew that would happen.
as for nathan really? miranda and grubbs had more then he did tonight. and the total lack of naley when haley found out that lydia is sick. but we did get a moment with clay and quinn….yawn. naley would have rocked that scene.
my only thing is maybe next week they are saving up for amazing naley moments.
I agree about the whole throwing out the fact that not only did Jimmy die, but it happened over four years ago when Haley was probably still in college. Ouch! Although I loved this episode, the real complaint that I had was that they waited until the end to Have Nathan comfort Haley. She has stood by him through so much. They have built Haley up to be such a strong and determined person…and that’s great don’t get me wrong, but I was really hoping to see her just fall apart, like really see her lose it over losing her mother. Haley is my favorite character on the show, and sometimes it’s nice to have a reminder that she too is human and she doesn’t have to have it together all of the time. I’m hoping that in the episodes to come that we will have a little more of Naley dealing with this as a family…maybe more of Nathan and Haley. I love Lydia and I’ll miss her, but I think this story line is really going to show us another side to Quinn and Haley’s relationship as sisters.
Amy, I know that you were disappointed in Taylor’s reaction and so was I, but I knew it was coming. Taylor deals with things by running from them. Lindsey as an actress did a great job of showing the fact that Taylor is just as scared and hut as Quinn and Haley are…she is dealing with it in the only way she knows how to. I hope she comes back. Overall, I know this episode was totally depressing, but the acting was amazing and I think it has been my favorite episode this season.
I think we are going to see a change in taylor
I’d really like to know how Jimmy died. WOnder if we’ll ever get closure on that?
Amy, yes, Haley was with Lydia but she was telling her mom how she didn’t want to deal with this, she didn’t want to have the strength to deal with it. Taylor didn’t come out and say that but it was clear, to me at least, that that was the motive behind her running.
Also, another complaint about the Haley-Lydia storyline. We already got a “mother dying from cancer” story on the show. Obviously the specifics are different but I wish there was more originality.
So i thought tonights episode was one of one tree hills best in s7. ive NEVER cried while watching oth. & tonight i shed a bunch of tears, idk why. i dnt relli cry for movies or tv or books but tonight jus got the best of me. i think they way haley speaks while shes crying jus makes me BREAK DOWN. shes AMAZING<3 & i think joy did a fantastic job tonight. i loved taylors reaction too bcus it was so her. i rem her saying in s2 that the reason she has a tattoo of a scorpio is bcus when its caught in a fire it stings itself to death bcus it cnt deal. & she saw her self like that. i thought it was a great reaction for her. Quinn deff doesnt seem like the oldest sister. she leans on Haley a lot but she was ok in this epi. i LOVED the naley scene at the end. not too much speaking but just the right words to make me sad. i loved everything
Would you have rather Lydia been kidnapped by a crazy nanny, dragged through a cornfield, and then shot dead? Oh wait they did that too. I like the way they are dealing with Lydia dying. There isn’t much else they could have done other than pulling the cancer card because anything else would have meant Lydia would be dying suddenly with out warning, like being hit by a card. There are other diseases that they could have given her, but none that wouldn’t have taken a much longer story line than 3 or four episodes. Pancreatic cancer is fast and aggressive. Lydia is only going to be around for a couple more episodes. I agree with what they did. Anything else would have been to soapoperaish.
i agree. i hope that haley does have a breakdown, because it isnt fair to have her as just this strong woman….nothing wrong with that….but have her show emotion, and lean on nathan. since its obvious she isnt going to get that shoulder from quinn.
veryy truee kelly.
i love how quinn ALWAYS leans on haley
but i dnt feel like haley can ever lean on her.
like wt that whole bby scandal i dnt feel like quinn was there for haley AT ALL.
but wt the whole david stuff Haley showed SO MUCH support for her. it just sucks.
but thankgod she has Nathan <3
St1129, I’m not saying it should’ve necessarily been a different illness or a different death. It maybe should’ve been a different storyline entirely. Sure, it’s nice seeing Lydia again I guess but it wasn’t necessary, especially since seeing her now brings up all the problems with us not seeing much of her in the past. But if they did want to do some sort of Lydia storyline, I think the possibilities are endless. It didn’t have to be this one.
thts truee but also i think its nice to see haley have a different issue. like usually its always wt nathan & cheating or music but its nice to see her play serious emotion & heartbreak. its not the best timing for this story line being that its soo late in the season but i think its a beautiful one, that relli showcases the actresses &actor’s skills. i love it. Joy is incredible & its funny cus she doesnt do so much crying liek Brooke does & Peyton did. so its nice to see her be “beautifully broken” for once.
Yeah, its unoriginal that they used the cancer card again however, there are numerous types of cancer and it is quite common. Not only that, but as ST1129 stated, pancreatic cancer is fast and aggressive. They need that for the storyline.
I didn’t mind finding out what happened to Jimmy through Clay. It just seemed the most natural since they have never met before and he’s just giving his condolences. However, I wanted to see Haley tell Nathan about it and not just Quinn tell Clay.
Kelly, she’s already starting to break down. Did you not see the last couple of minutes of the episode with her and Nathan? Even during most of the episode, I could see her strong front tumbling down. If anything good comes out of this storyline, it’ll be seeing Haley not be that strong person that everyone comes too. She needs to break down once in awhile and need someone to hold on to.
I thought Taylors reaction was reasonable. Everyone deals with these kinds of things in their own way, and this is Taylors way.
I wanted to see more Nathan in this, but I’m glad they focused on the James family. I think we’ll definitely see more of Nathan consoling Haley in the episodes to come.
I was definitely surprised when I saw Nathan and Brooke have a scene together. Missed those two! As well as Jamie and Brooke. Speaking of Jamie.. holy crap! That kid looks OLD now. More like he’s 10-12 not 7! They wouldn’t be able to keep the show going on much longer because Jackson is starting to look more preteen like than child like nowadays. No wonder he acts like a brat (no offense. He was just way cuter in Season 5)
Honestly, I didn’t care about anything else, that’s why I’m not commenting on it. Brooke, Julian, Alex and Alex. All the same crap, different episode.
i was crying SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much this episode i agree that picture when it shifted into the picture of when they were younger it had me crying like 10 minutes AFTER the episode ended holy crap
I’m not sure I totally disagree with Taylor’s reaction. If I hadn’t read somewhere that there’ll be a death sometime this season, I’m not sure I’d believe it’s Lydia.
Pancreatic cancer is incredibly lethal, but it’s not an automatic death sentence. Steve Jobs, the chairman of Apple Computer, was diagnosed years ago. Patrick Swayze had treatment that lengthened his life. I’m not sure why the writers want to have yet ANOTHER woman DIE from her cancer. Why can’t they show instead that sometimes cancer can be cured, or recovered from, instead? Taylor is upset because her Mom isn’t TRYING. (Unless of course she’s already had a round of chemo or something, and they just neglected to tell us that fact, but it seems like she would’ve told the girls? And if her husband’s dead, why in the world hasn’t she moved back to Tree Hill anyway?)
I would love to see Taylor redeem herself this year by coming up with a new treatment, a new plan, something that her Mom should at least TRY and if it’s too burdensome, then discontinue treatment.
I totally believe in the right to choose your own destiny, but I also think Lydia might just a teensy bit OWE the girls and Jamie at least one round of treatment before she just gives up. There’s lots of medicine to help get through chemo these days.
I don’t know, I think Taylor shouldn’t have run away, but she’s angry, she knows that now maybe she won’t have the chance to show her Mom she can be the person she should be in life, and she feels cheated that her Mom isn’t going to try to get better before she refuses treatment.
Overall, the episode was great, I thought. It was a little disappointing that Nathan didn’t get the big moment with Haley, but that’s what would’ve happened with the two sisters there. Their last scene made up for it, I thought.
And I absolutely hated the previews, please, let Julian and Brooke either get back together or move on. And just when I was starting to think Alex might just redeem herself, I thought she acted terrible at the end and her remarks to Julian in the preview were out of line.
lydia had a point Naley needs more kids… c’mon Mark Schwan write in some kids for naley
I agree that they could have gone another direction with Lydia, and not have her die, but I think that this is one of the best storylines they have given Haley lately. I really think that having to deal with her mom’s death is going to show us another side to her. They could have had Haley face any number of tragedies, but aside from losing either Ntahan or Jamie, I don’t think anything would affect like losing her mother would. They’ve shown Haley being strong, they’ve shown her fighting back, they’ve shown her being fearless, and angry. I’m ready to see an emotional side to her character. I think we need to see her fall apart, and have to lean on someone else for a change. I hope they use this story line as a chance to do that with her. Joy is a great actress. She did some amazingly emotional work as Michelle Santos in Guiding Light. I would love to see her go through the same as Haley.
All we need is for Dan to die now. I still hate the way they killed Keith off in season 3. I know it added tons of story lines and changed the whole direction of the show and opened up so much by losing just one character… but I don’t see how bringing back a character that was in a handful of episodes to begin with and killing them off is really going to add anything except for a few episodes of drama and then what? What’s the purpose of killing Lydia? How does that advance any story lines or help develop the existing characters on the show? So maybe Haley will take her mom’s advice and have another child and she will be the grown up sister to Taylor and Quinn… wait she already is by letting them live with her and supporting both of them.
Anyways. Yes tonight was sad. When Lydia dies it will be even sadder but I have no vested interest in her character since she hasn’t been around since what the start of season two?
As for Brooke and Julian. Something is just fishy about the whole thing. It doesn’t feel right to me. I personally feel Brooke deserves a better love interest. She needs a epic love story and I’m just not feeling that with the Julian character.
That was well said, St1129. I do agree that we will at least get some great BJG acting out of it and I’m glad you mentioned GL (one of my favorite non-teen drama shows).
Oh I forgot Quinn got a studio to show her photographs. So her story line gets advanced. Even though people have been bashing her since day one on the show.
Dear One Tree Hill,
You seem to have gone away and left an impostor in you stead. You would never have let Quinn into your world or tried to make me care about her with this forced emotional plot line. You would not have allowed Brooke Davis who was the comedic, perky, and beautiful spirit become run down and chasing after some guy who clearly wants the best of both worlds. Most importantly, you didn’t invest too much in side characters who have nothing important or even entertaining to contribute to the plot. Please One Tree Hill, come back. You can blame it all on this impostor who is sullying your good name.
TDW…Guiding Light was the only Soap I ever watched growing up. I only started watching when Danny Santos was introduced and stopped watching when Joy left. I was like in eight or ninth grade when the Danny and Michelle story arch started and I used to fake sick in order to stay home and watch it. Totally “had the flu” during each and every one of their 5 million wedding episodes. lol
Melody, you just cracked me up! Nice work.
St1129, I totally understand the faking sick to watch! I did that a lot with several shows! And then in college I scheduled my classes so I could still watch GL in the morning. LOL
I once had to drop a night class in college because it interrupted my One Tree Hill schedule, so I completely sympathize. lol
Cancer is a horrible, undignified, and painful disease. This episode was especially difficult for me to watch because a friend passed away today from a long battle with cancer. I thought the scenes with the James girls were amazing and uncomfortably realistic. It was beautifully acted and portrayed by all of the actresses (including Quinn – shocker!).
I am so so so so tired of the Alex2/Brooke/Julian thing. Please resolve this SOON… I mean like the next episode! Alex is a witch… she gives the impression that she has changed and that she is all for trying to get Brooke & Julian back together, but she is still the same. I can’t believe that Julian has financed apparently everything… selling his car?? And he doesn’t see that as a problem and that it might give the wrong impression to Brooke and/or Alex?!? He is clueless and he has a long way to go to earn Brooke’s trust and affection again. And Alexander running off to sleep with Alex was more than disappointing… he is a butthead too!
No joke it was what I lived for. I am either getting old or its getting worse and I refuse to accept that 23 is old. I mean today is my birthday for crying out loud. I have been watching since day 1 and Schwahn couldn’t even give me a good Brooke quote?
although taylor’s reaction was horrible i have to say i LOVED seeing hurt n anger come out of her. you can tell she’s the one who will break down n fall apart more than quinn n haley and i love that we get to see something other than bitch come out of Taylor
This episode was a great one! I loved it! But My only Complaint is that i need more NALEY!!!!! I dont ever complaign when it comes to OTH because I love it sooo much! But Im really craving some good Naleyness!!!! We need it like now!
I wish they would have done something besides her dying of cancer. It seems like they have been recycling a lot of stories. I will never forget Peyton finding her mom dead. Joy is great though and I know she will do a great job. I just wish Peyton was here because I always liked Haley and her friendship and it woulsd have been nice to see them interact over this.
I love this site. Ive been coming here for years, its the only OTH site I will go to. That being said, please change the banner!!! I get Hil and Chad are gone but come on! Clay is a huge part of this show now, so is Quinn even IF you don’t like her. It looks so out of place having just Nathan Julian Brooke and Haley up there. No Jamie? Im sorry if I am coming off crass, I didnt want to post this as a comment, but I didnt know how to email you directly. You really should include all the main characters in the banner, not just the original ones. Other than that, keep up the fantastic work you do here. You have a wonderful site.
It’s been a while since OTH made me cry but tonight I bawled like a baby.It hit home for me since I lost my dad to cancer 5 years ago. I have all sisters and one of my sisters reacted the same as Taylor initially. I,too, would have liked to have seen more Naley but hopefully we will get that next week. Let’s hope Lydia’s dying wish is for Naley to work on baby number 2!!And it did suck that the audience was told of Haley’s dad’s death in such a “matter of fact” way. They could have at least had Lydia say how he died (e.g. car accident,heart attack).More Naley next week,please.
forgot to add…loved the dig that lydia gave haley about having another child. we want her to have another one too ;P
Nicole, I think there might have been a poll and everyone got to choose who was on the banner. That’s why they aren’t up there.
yes the whole mom cancer thing was done but at the same time, it happens more than once. i’ve had 5 people in my family with cancer, 4 of them was all at once in 2008 and into 2009 so i can’t fault on OTH for that one.
ed fury does have a point, lydia was in only 2 eepisodes in season 2, aka 5 years ago, likewise taylor was in a handful of episodes back in season 2 as well but i think everyone likes lydia, she has this warmth about her and id rather take her than let’s say felix or anna from season 2. its good that the show has this rich history that they can draw characters from. it helps ground the show considering all the new faces but like what u said, we didnt need to have her die. she could’ve just been sick or not even that. she could’ve came into town because nathan called her and needed someone to set her daughters straight.
i dont think taylor’s reaction was unreasonable at all. she just found out that the one person in her family who gives her the benefit of the doubt is going to die without a fight. all she ever hears from haley and quinn is how awful she is. i’m not saying she doesn’t deserve that, because let’s be honest… she has been awful.
i think shes just scared of losing the one person in the world that she knows loves her. and to hear that one person say they’re just going to die without a fight? i’d freak out too. and i do understand where lydia is coming from and i don’t blame her for wanting to enjoy the time she has left, but if it were my mom i know i would at least want her to try.
i like naley but i haven’t been one of the people who gets mad when they dont get a lot of screen time, but i think the lack of it tonight was ridiculous. nathan goes off to a movie set of a guy he didnt even like a few episodes back when his wife just found out her mom is dying? THATS ridiculous.
Nah, Nathan not being there I can understand. He took Jamie so that Haley could spend time with her mom and sisters. I don’t think Nathan would want to be around for that. He wouldn’t have found out until later, after he came back. I just wish they had shown Haley telling him that she was dying.
About Nathan not being there to comfort Haley when she found out about her mom’s illness, I just assumed that maybe the mom told Nathan ahead of time so he could take Jamie out of the house and keep him busy so she could talk to her daughters.
Makes sense, right?
OH EM GEE!! that was the saddest episode in a long time, i was about to cry. and WTF haleys dad died NOOO !!! i really have to give props to joy lindsay bess and even shantel did really amazing tonight. they almost had me to tears. haley crying in nathans arms just broke my heart!! wanted more naley scenes tho, but i always want more naley lol
might be the best episode of this season, SOO SAD i love it
The last scene indeed was heart breaking. I don’t think it’s fair that Lydia is expecting Haley to be strong – she just found out her mother is dying – she has the right to fall a part. I understand Taylor – she just heard the shocking news – after another day she had a fight with her sisters. I know she isn’t saint but as laura said – her mother was the only one that she knows that loved her any way.
I have to say that I think for the first time – I like Quinn. And I love that even do the 3 sisters are there – the focus was on Haley. As for Nathan – I think it’s untreatable that he took Jaime – he wanted his wife and sisters get alone time with their mother. We know that when Haley will need him he will be there.
Brooke – I love her; love her, love her but she is to good to everybody. She is even trying to be nice to Alex – she does not deserve that. And Julian – he is clearly still love Brooke so why is he acting like the biggest jerk ever??? This is not epic love story this just sad. And do I love Brooke but she deserve better – that little signs he give her just not enough.
Loved loved Brooke and Nathan (we need more) and loved to see again Brooke and Jaime – finally. We need more scene with Brooke + Haley + Nathan + Jaime.
Alexander – if I liked him – I don’t any more. Why are you going with Alex? You know she is in love with you boss/friend ex and you know she is vulnerable – you don’t do that. Oh yes – you gave her a second to change her mind… not good enough.
Alex – don’t love her. I feel she is doing one step forward and 20 backwards – she told Brooke she is sad that brulian broke up but next episode she is going to show Julian once again she loves him??? I hope they are not going to sleep together because if they do Alex wouldn’t be the only one that I don’t like…
Millie – hope she is getting help. Wonder what will be between her and mouth and Owen…
Grubs and Miranda – pointless to me…
^^^ i mean happy not hope about Millie
Naley are freaking amazing!! Their love just continues to shine and they are amazing!!
The Brooke and Nathan scene looked painful. It looked like James wanted to anywhere but where he was. Such a shame, they use to have such a nice friendly chem
Nathan was a guest star in his own show tonight and it bugged me that he was playing prop to Brooke/Julian relationship.
Brooke buge the crap out of me. The girl clearly needs to ditch and dismiss or take himm back, just make up your friggin mind! Sophia and Austin have incredibly HOT chemistry!!
^ ‘It looked like James wanted to be anywhere but where he was’ that’s what it should have said
Watching the James family last night was easily the best acting and the best One Tree Hill I’ve seen in seasons, probably since season 4. I even liked Quinn and thought her scenes with Lydia were strong. I am so glad we finally get to see Joy’s talent put to good use. I won’t comment on anything else because really nothing else mattered to me but them last night and they (the James’) all did an excellent job.
Omg last nights episode was sooo sad my eyes were filled wit tears :’( I did’nt know haleys dad was dead??? It was a good episode.
IT WAS A Phenomenal Episode!! Lydia and her daughters storyline was amazing i had this lump in my throat and taers in my eyes
and the music made it much more sad and at the CODA i lost it!
all the james sisiters did great tonight and Lydia was legendary. my heart broke for Haley i think it’s not fair for her to be strong and Taylor’s reaction was very realistic and so much like her.
loved the Naley scene even though i wish it was longer.
Brooke/julian/alexes..what’s new?really?!
hey! awesome episode but on a slightly unrelated note..does oth have another hiatus between now and the end of the season? if so, when?
thnx!
Mandi, i’m sorry to hear about your friend. This eppisode must have been exceptionally hard to watch.
As for the eppisode itself, I LOVED it!!! It was aazingly done and acted! All the women were AMAZING in those scenes.
For thoses of you that say that Taylor shouldn’t have acted the way that she did. Yes, ok, her reaction could be construe as being selfish, but it was so very Taylor. She runs when she cant deal with things. That is Taylor!!!!
I think that the reason why Nathan took Jamoe to the film set was because JAmie wanted to hang around there with Brooke and Julian as he probably hasn’t spent some time with them for a while and Nathan stayed there so that the James women could have some girl time!!!!!
As for the “recycling” storyline. Unfortunately 1 in 3 of us will be affecte by cancer in our lifetime, whether it be ourselfs that have to fight the disease or our familly members or friends. So, no its not bad that annother character in the show is having to fight cancer. Its life unfortunately. And OTH is being very realistic.
As for the rest, I think that Brooke and Julian should sort themselves out, and as for Millie, i’m glad that she seemes to be getting help!!
As for the Miranda, Grubs thing, i think that it is cuite hat she wants to make his album and will do anything to do that, but the scenes to day, were very contrasty to those that were going on between the James girls! I guys that was a good thing as we all werent brawling our eyes out all the time but they still somehow didn seam to fit!!!!
ANy way, still felt like it was a great eppisode overall!
torres, yes, there is another hiatus. The last episode is March 1 and then the show returns April 19.
Finally something that Joy could sink her teeth into and that she did. The best part of last night show was her of course and her sisters and mom. Everything else was boring!!! and on repeat. I wish James/Nathan had more envolvement with Haley but I understand he was suppose to be keeping Jamie occupied while his mom dealt. That last scene is what Naley is all about. The Brathan scene was very akward Nathan looked as if he could give two shits about Brooke and her boy problems, his wife’s mom is dieing of cancer. JamesNathan was out of sorts until his last scene with Haley other than that he was on auto pilot or something. I actually liked Quinn in this episode and I understood Taylors reaction too. Great performances by all the James sisters and I love Bess too! The last scene killed me.
Great epiode. Joy is such a good actress and I love Bess Armstrong. I don’t get Grubbs and Miranda…sorry. I just don’t care. Glad to see Millie’s back on track. And I really want Brooke and Julian to be on solid ground. Please!
I don’t think Nathan knew while he was on set about Haley’s mom. We saw Nathan with the girls at Clay’s when Lydia arrived. Next thing we know, Nathan and Jamie are on set while Haley and co. are at Naley’s house sorting through pictures and then Lydia drops the bombshell. You would think Haley might’ve called Nathan after that–and if she did, I wish we saw it–and he would’ve insisted on coming home or given some indication that he knew while he was on set. Instead, based on what we did see, I took it as Haley had spent the day at home dealing with it all and Nathan had no idea until some point later on, when Haley either called him or he came home and she told him. And, of course, since they stupidly didn’t give us either scene, we can’t say for sure. But I didn’t think he had any idea about it while he was on set and I didn’t think him being on set had anything to do with him staying out of the way and/or keeping Jamie out of the way.
Very touching, well directed and well acted episode of OTH. We saw a different side of everyone here. I was not suprised by Taylors reaction and honeslty they all had that angry, why is she giving up reaction? But Taylor is the only one with an excuse to leave….where would Haley go? and Quinn? Everyone deals with things differently. I expect her back and maybe even with a new attitude. I dont really mind that we didnt get a Haley telling Nathan scene. What we did get was great and I would much rather see her and Lydia together. Dont get me started on Julian….UGH! or Alex….both of them! EW!
I have never loved a tv show more than I love OTH but S7 just doesn’t cut it anymore. It’s not the show we fell in love with. It’s going to be hard to wrap this season up in 6 more episodes with all these loose ends and new characters we don’t care about.
I love Lydia but since she hasn’t been around or even mentioned since beginning of S2 the only reason she was brought on was to show a new and stronger relationship between her and Haley.
I liked last nights epi and at least we got that one Naley scene at the end but after last week’s 80′s epi and the perfect naley moments, I feel like last night fell short with Naley moments. Nathan seemed to be in a daze for most of the epi, not sure what was wrong with James but something was definetely off with him. I hope this new s/l for Haley will bring lots of Naley moments.
Joy was superb as usual
Okay….I loved this episode. The storyline was actually good for once.
-Loved the Grubbs scenes. He cracks me up.
-Alex is starting to grow on me but she still gets on my nerves. And I still believe that Julian has more than platonic feelings for her. I agree with Brooke and I don’t blame her for giving the relationship a break. He can say he loves and misses her all he wants. But his actions are saying differently.
-The James’ storyline was the BEST. I was so happy to see Lydia. It was emotional but the acting was really good. Still can’t stand Taylor but I feel sorry for her.
-Loved all of the Jamie scenes….he is so adorable.
All in all pretty good episode.
I loved last nights episode. It was so sad but a good show. I totally cried the whole time. I did not know that Mr. James had died. That was a surprise. Now Lydia will be goone. What are the James sisters to do? What did Lydia mean by Haley being her sisters keeper? It she talking about Taylor? Because there is no hope for that child. I hope we find out more about that. I wish that there were more Naley scenes. It would have been nice to see Naley cry together. It was a very toughing episode and I hope to see many more like it.
Oh…Loved the end with Haley Lydia and Quinn together on the couch and the photo. It was beautiful.
Next Monday is my 22nd Birthday! Yeah and I get to watch One Tree Hill on my birthday.
I loved that line when Jamie told Nathan he wanted to be a movie director instead of a basketball player and Nathan said he just wants Jamie to be happy! <3
thanks for ruining it
PS i did NOT read it.. im not stupid as i was scrolling down the first sentence caught my eye and basically that told me what the whole episode was about
so really.. thanks
Don’t you think that James and Sophia looked uncomfortable in their scene, especially speaking about ex-boyfriends???
The last scene just made me lose it. Showing the picture with Lydia and her two daughters…I just couldn’t stop crying. Brilliant episode although I would have wanted to see when Haley tells Nathan. And did they tell Jamie yet? I guess not.
Violet: I got that impression too. It seems like Nathan/James could care less about Brooke and her ex’es.
Did you guys happen to see the previews for the upcoming return of Gossip Girl during OTH last night? It looked like it was going to be 20 times more entertaining than OTH is right now. Gossip Girl is still young and fresh with all kinds of twists and turns, OTH can only pull out a dying family member that literally just walked on set this week that we haven’t thought about in 5 years. I agree with some of the others that posted earlier that this is pretty lame.
However, I will say that the end of the episode fading into the picture was a pretty cool moment. I also agree that it was very lame how they discussed Haley’s dads death as well. Bring back Dan & Deb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This was the OTH ‘s hardest episode to watch…..
Three months ago I lost a family member from Pancreatic cancer so I couldn’t stop crying…..
I think that everyone who has lost a family member or a friend from cancer felt the same….
It was a wonderful episode and it should continue like that…..
i loved the naley scene even though we only got one it was still great
in the next episode i would like to see a nathan and lydia scene that would be good
I love Deb: Maybe we don’t know much about Haley’s mom or her sister Taylor, but we do know Haley and have known Haley for 7 seasons so whatever she is going through has to do with a core character losing a parent. Haley who is a core character is involved in this story line. While I feel for Haley’s mom and I love the actress Bess Armstrong, it is Haley’s side of the story I am more interested in seeing and how she and her family(Nathan and Jamie) deal with it together. It is not so much Lydia has cancer, it is how is the family going to deal with an actual parent dyeing. Peyton didn’t really know her mom and that was sad in itself, but Haley has a best friend and confidant in her mother. Dan has been dyeing for seasons now. I think this is great for Joy and Haley and the Naley’s.
well i won’t continue on repeat about the james girls story lines. needless to say, all four of them were amazing. i didn’t like the way they told us haley’s dad was killed, but i did like how she could relate to clay. and taylor was believable. thats all i have to say
grubbs and miranda were my favorite part(after the cancer thing) of the episode. i love how forward grubbs is being and the way it flusters miranda. she doesn’t know how to deal with his advances when she just wants him to make an album. it reminds me of season 1 the way that brooke was so forward to lucas. those two are fresh and even though they are minor characters, i likeed them more than i liked brooke, nate, and julian
okay, here’s my prediction. julian got jaime into film making. he gave jaime the recorder. jaime is going to record lydia’s last moments with her family and give it to the girls after the passing.
claythan i like that idea how great would it be for jamie to film her last moments
That is by far one of my favorite episodes. FAVORITE of this year for sure. I don’t think I have cried cried all the way through an episode since the shooting episode. I cried during the funeral scene of Q but omg learning Hayley’s mom is dying and that her dad did die.
oooh and is it bad for me to say now that i am team Julian and Alex. So sweet how her got her through that take.
michaela
I don’t think its bad for you to say team julian/alex. last weeks episode had me on their side too. i just think that the way the episodes are written have got you wondering where julian’s heart lies, even though he may love brooke
I hate Taylor as much as the next person, but, for once, I actually think we got a clear understanding of where she was coming from. A lot of people I know have died from cancer and there’s always at least one person in the family who reacts that way. The acting of all of the James family was incredible last night. Joy seriously needs some kind of award after this season, her character has been all over the place and she flawlessly pulls it all off.
I like that Brooke and Julian’s storyline is moving forward finally. I’m glad that they’re both finally maturing at least enough to be around each other, even if it’s hard. That said, I almost feel like Brooke’s character is better off without him, or any man for that matter, at this point in her life. She’s not the strong, confident, happy Brooke that everyone loves when she’s in a relationship. I almost want Julian and Alex to hook up, and then Brooke adopt a baby and just be happy if it ends this year. Oh, and Jana’s acting in her “acting” scene, was awesome. I even teared up a little.
Nathan, Clay, and Jamie were all a bit useless this episode, but it worked I think, because it made this family crisis a bit more focused.
I’m glad Millie’s getting some help. Seriously though, those girls who were all “she’s so plain” should look in the mirror, because she’s stunning and they were… well, not.
Best effing eppy this season! it was so prefect the way everything played out even the sad moments just had the prefect dialoge and acting. Joy killed it last night! she was awesome and so was quinn, and i have to say that if you guys dont like quinn after that ep your insane bc she really did a great job and step up a whole nother notch and it was great. Props to lindsey and bess too:) oh Jana did really good in her acting scene with julian too i cryed a little inside lol i think what made me cry was the quinn and clay scene for some reason? idk i cried after every emo scene after that lol
I was really impressed with this week’s episode. A lot of the season has had the same stuff, Nathan’s basketball, Haley’s music, C/B, and all the couples drama with Q and clay and Brulian. So it was really nice to see something a bit more intense, that a lot of people can somewhat relate to, in one way or another.
I really do like having Haley’s mom back. I noticed that they’re actually somewhat bringing parts from 1st, 2nd, and 7th seasons all coming as one. This is the first time we see Haley AND two of her sisters, AND their mom. Most of the time it was one of the sisters at a time or just her parents. Then we get the sisters, and now all of them. It really was nice to see their interactions. Having a parent back really is a nice thing too. Sure, we see Victoria and Dan, but we’ve really just seen them as villains and neglectful parents. Having Lydia back brings back the caring, advice-giving parent that we’ve never seen from Dan or Victoria (Victoria’s been trying, but it’s not as sincere). It really does make us miss the Keith and Karen characters. And I definitely agree about Haley. We’ve just seen her as the young mom trying to be young but at the same time, trying to be a mom. And she seems to be one of the most stable ones who everyone else turns to for advice, and to see her needing the shoulder to lean on is something I’ll bet everyone liked. Shows that even the strong hearted can be vulnerable.
And when she brought Quinn to the new studio, i died. That was such a touching scene.
And the shot with the picture of Lydia and her daughters was so touching. Just thinking about it right now is giving me major chills. It truly shows the creativity and thought the film editors put into making the show was it is. Beautiful.
I really wish we could have seen a little bit more of Huey Lewis, and I would have liked to know before that Haley’s dad had died instead of just telling us that it had happened and it’s done. they really could have done a lot with that.
I’m still not much of a Taylor fan. I know she doesn’t want her mom to just give up like that. Nobody would. And her sisters, no matter how annoyed they get with her, really need to stick together if they can help each other cope. And to just leave without saying good bye, nice move. I noticed that whenever she’s not wanted, or she’s causing trouble in the Scott (and now partially James?) house, she seems to just stick around and be obnoxious, but now, when her sisters and mom need her, she doesn’t think twice about leaving. Interesting, no?
I will say that I kind of liked what we saw of Nathan. He wasn’t caught up in his NBA stuff, or drama with Clay. He backed off so he could give the James sisters some space to process what they had just found out, but he was there to comfort Haley when she needed it. And while they were dealing with that, he was helping Jamie with the thought of losing another grandparent. I really do like how he acted in this one.
The Miranda and Grubbs interaction, very nice. I like a lot.
Oh Alex, Alex, Alex. As much as I love that she’s not throwing herself all over Julian at this point, she’s really got to chill. That was kind of gross. I feel like he’s wayyyy older than her too.
Julian and Brooke are still being way too dumb. Julian tells her that he misses her, and she OBVIOUSLY misses him too. So quit beating around the bush and get together again. She needs to tell him that she misses him too, and tell her what’s on her mind. Julian needs to tell her that there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with him and Alex. And Alex should tell Brooke to go after him. She’s already told Julian that she knows they were meant to be together. So what’s up? I’m starting to get really impatient. It needs to happen. And soon.
So, yeah, I really did like this episode. A lot
damnit! my comment keeps having an error. this is really pissing me off. lets try this one last time! its gonna be brief-
*completely insulted that they think it was believable to longtime fans to say that haleys dad had died years ago and had heretofore gone unmentioned. BS!
*taylor’s reaction was completely understandable, human behavior.
*miranda/grubbs? dont give a crap anymore! once more, i am insulted. they’re using p’s office as a location for two brand new, stupid, minor characters to fall in love? BS! get rid of the place, sheesh.
although i really enjoyed haley tonight =)
overall, this episode makes me think the show should not continue.
“Dear One Tree Hill,
You seem to have gone away and left an impostor in you stead. You would never have let Quinn into your world or tried to make me care about her with this forced emotional plot line. You would not have allowed Brooke Davis who was the comedic, perky, and beautiful spirit become run down and chasing after some guy who clearly wants the best of both worlds. Most importantly, you didn’t invest too much in side characters who have nothing important or even entertaining to contribute to the plot. Please One Tree Hill, come back. You can blame it all on this impostor who is sullying your good name.”
-Melody- I totally agree! Perfect.
I am obviously in the minority, but I didn’t think the episode was all that great. I just don’t get the emotional connection everyone else got from the cancer story line. Lydia hasn’t been on OTH in 5, almost 6, years so I don’t understand how Haley can say “you are the person I call, the person I lean on”, etc… when her mom hasn’t been around nor mentioned since the beginning of season 2. I realize that just because her mom hasn’t been on screen doesn’t mean that she hasn’t been around, but just throwing it in there so randomly is a little off for me. (My mom has had cancer for the past 15 years, so I get that it’s a terrible disease and it’s very emotional for a family to go through) I just think this episode was very random and the cancer storyline came out of nowhere.
elle, you may be in the minority but I’m with you! That’s just one of the things that POed me about the episode!
#58 TDW
>torres, yes, there is another hiatus. The last episode is >March 1 and then the show returns April 19.
They finish shooting 7.22 on March 15 so we basically have a month to wait for the last 3 episodes to start airing while the actual cast and crew will have already split Wilmington. I guess if we start hearing reports of moving vans again we will know the fate on the show before the series actually starts airing episodes again.
That’s an interesting point, Ed.
This story arc wasn’t created so it can bring a major story line for Haley’s mother Lydia. This is suppose to be Haley and Quinn’s story line and how they deal with the fact that they will lose their mother. Hopefully we will get to see their side of the story,more so Haley as they have to cope and deal. Just because we didn’t see that mother didn’t mean they didn’t keep in touch and have a relationship. She moved away from TH so totally feasible. We don’t see Naley having sex or even the possibility of it, but does that mean that they don’t we are to assume.LOL We never see holidays but we assume that the celebrate them with family and friends. I doesn’t bother me that they brought Lydia back. I think for once we are getting a realistic story line that doesn’t involve, concerts, NBA, Fashion world, movie making and 3rd parties and bimbo’s or crazy insane parents or crazy insane stalkers.
Finally, this show is getting back to it’s roots. Family, heartache, relationships, and realistic character-driven drama. Well, at least ONE side of the show is getting back to it’s roots. Brooke and all the people involved in her side of the story are ridiculous and bringing the show down. This storyline with Haley’s family is strong and the acting is really doing it justice. Same can’t be said for any of the other SL’s.
All I have to say is, thank God for Haley/Joy/ and her family or this show would be a waste. Now if we could only add more than one Naley scene an episode, it’d just be that much better!